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Hard drive i have a philips freeline pc it has an ide harddrive there seems to be a plug to put in a sata hard drive is this right and can anyone tell me how to fit it

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Hi,

Some motherboards support both IDE and SATA so it is not unlikely for your MOBO to have both. There should be some mention of SATA in the motherboard BIOS screens so have a look see. Otherwise just plug in a SATA device to it and see if it works!!

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Skimatice for hard drive connections


Schematic

The eMachines T6532 uses an MSI MS-7207 motherboard.
Also known as the KN8GM2-L,

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/K8NGM2-FID--IL--L.html

[ http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130041 ]

The MSI motherboard has provisions for using, EITHER an
IDE (PATA) harddrive, or a SATA harddrive. (Or more than one)

Two different technologies.
I will explain both, using an IDE (PATA) harddrive,
OR;
Using a SATA harddrive;

On the MSI Support page above, click on the Download tab.
(Overview / Specifications / Download / Support / etc)

In the drop down list click on - Manual

Language > English > 7.1MB > E7207v2.0.zip
Click on the blue E7207v2.0.zip

On the next page click on the country name nearest yours.
A small window will come up -
Opening E7207v2.0.zip

Make SURE there is a Green dot in the small circle, to the left of Save File.
IF not; Left-click in the small circle to the left of Save File.
Now go below in the small window, and click on OK

A small download window will come up. Allow the file to download ALL the way, then DOUBLE-click right on it.

In the next small window go to the far left, and click on -
Extract all files.

At the bottom of the next 3 small windows, click on -
Next, Next, and Finish.

In the last small window DOUBLE-click right on the file name.
(7207v2.0(G52-M7207X5) next to the red Adobe PDF icon)

There is the Motherboard Manual

The MS-7207 has two IDE slots;

IDE 1, which is Yellow in color, and close to the outside edge of the motherboard.
Should have IDE 1 silkscreened on the motherboard, below it.

IDE 2 is Yellow in color also, and right next to IDE 1.

(IDE 2 is in-between IDE 1 and the Ram Memory slots.
The Purple, Slot 4, ram memory slot to be specific. {DIMM 4 )

IDE 1 is used for an IDE harddrive.
IDE 2 is used for an IDE optical drive.

TWO IDE harddrives can be put on a single flat ribbon IDE cable,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ATA_cables.jpg

NOTE that there are two styles of IDE flat ribbon cables;
40-wire cable,
OR;
80-wire cable.

BOTH have 40 socket holes in their connectors.
(ONLY 39 are used, so one hole May, or May Not be blocked off)

How to connect to a 40-wire IDE cable, or an 80-wire IDE cable,

http://www.mikeshardware.com/howtos/howto_connect_ide_hd.html

An IDE cable usually has a Locating Lug on it's connectors, in the middle of the connector; and on one side,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PATA-cable.jpg

Here you see the Locating Lug as being two separate 'ridges'.
Some styles the Locating Lug is single block.

The motherboard connector has a matching Cutout on one side.
The Locating Lug lines up with the cutout when installing the cable.

The Harddrive, and optical drive (CD/DVD drive), will have a cutout on their circuit boards.

There are 40-pins. (Only 39 are used if so)
One of them is the number 1 pin.
The IDE cables are plugged into the motherboard, with number 1 pin lining up with number 1 wire, in the IDE cable.

Same when the IDE cable is plugged into a Harddrive, or optical drive.

IF, there is no Locating Lug on the IDE cable;
Look for the faint RED stripe, on the side of the IDE cable.
Number 1 wire is on the same side, as the faint Red stripe.

When plugging into a motherboard, Number 1 pin is on the Bottom.
The faint red stripe on the cable, goes towards the BOTTOM of the motherboard.
(Motherboard installed in computer case)

When plugging into a Harddrive, or optical drive; the faint red stripe ALWAYS goes toward the power cable,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#peripheral

This shows you the Back of an IDE (PATA) harddrive, and the power cable used for it.
If -> No Locating Lug on IDE cable, the faint Red stripe goes towards the power cable.

This is a 4-pin standard Peripheral power cable.
Note when installing the rounded corners ALWAYS goes UP.

[This power cable is frequently, and erroneously; referred to as a 'Molex' power cable.
Molex was just the first manufacturer of the power cable CONNECTOR. Name STUCK.

Kind of like calling an adjustable open-end wrench, a 'Crescent wrench ]

A SATA power cable is used for a SATA harddrive, or SATA optical drive,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#sata

There is an L-shape in the SATA power cable's connector.
It matches an L-shape on the Harddrive, or optical drive.

Between a SATA power cable's connector, and a SATA data cable's connector; a SATA power cable connector is the LARGER of the two.
A SATA power cable has 15-contact pins.
A SATA data cable has 7-contact pins.

A SATA power cable's connector may have a LOCK on it.
Usually a Tab, or 'bulb' type affair.
It is pressed down with the thumb when installing, or removing the SATA power cable.

This is a general example of a SATA data cable,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SATA_Data_Cable.jpg

Now you can see the L-shaped opening a little better, that both the SATA data cable have, and the SATA power cable, has.

In the photo the SATA data cable's connector, is a 90 degree bent Elbow.
This style of connector is usually used on the Harddrive, or on the optical drive.

A Straight connector style is usually used for the Motherboard.
However, you can use a SATA data cable, that has a Straight connector on both ends.

Looking at your motherboard, installed in a computer case; there are 2 SATA connectors on the motherboard.

(CAN, be up to FOUR)

I see one motherboard reference where they (2) are Orange in color, (Newegg), and the motherboard manual shows them (2) to be Purple in color.

They are located towards the Bottom/Right corner of the motherboard.
Above the CMOS battery.

The SATA connector that is closest to the Outside edge of the motherboard, is SATA1 (SATA 1)

The Harddrive plugs into SATA 1.

An optical drive that is SATA, will plug into the SATA2 connector.
To the Left of the SATA1 connector.

KNOW THIS;

DOES NOT MATTER, which SATA connector you plug the Harddrive, or optical drive; into.

The beauty of SATA, is that you can plug the Harddrive or optical drive into ANY SATA connector, (On ANY motherboard), and BIOS will find those devices.

BIOS looks FIRST, to see which drive has the Operating System on it. (Windows)
THAT, is the Harddrive.

After finding the drive with the O/S on it, then BIOS will find all the other drives. Removable, or not.

So there you have it. A lot of reading.
You need a power cable, and a data cable to the Harddrive.
Same thing for the optical drive/s.

To have me clarify anything I have stated above, please post in a Comment.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
Regards,
joecoolvette

Apr 15, 2013 | E-Machines T6532 PC Desktop

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Find socket for hard drive


HP part number 5188-5473 brings up the Asus A8N-LA motherboard, made especially for HP,

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&cc=us&docname=c00647121#N413

The rest of the number/letters do me no good.

I will elate some information based on the above, and see if it does you any good;

1) The Asus A8N-LA has connectors for two types of Harddrives;

A) IDE. Also known as PATA.

This type of Harddrive uses a flat ribbon IDE(PATA) data cable,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nappe.svg

Another look,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ATA_cables.jpg

(The Asus name probably won't be on it. These two IDE data cables just happen to be made by Asus )

The connectors on each end have 40 socket holes. One socket hole will be blocked off. (Or should be) ONLY 39 socket holes are used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PATA-cable.jpg

A look at the connector on the motherboard;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ATA_on_mainboard.jpg

Looking at the motherboard illustration, look at the Bottom/Right corner. There are two IDE connectors. They are marked as IDE 1, and IDE 2.

Scrolling down a little bit to the motherboard photo, you will see IDE 1 connector is Black in color, and IDE 2 is Blue in color.

The IDE (PATA) harddrive's data cable goes to IDE 1.
Optical drive/s (CD/DVD drive) goes to IDE 2.

This is the type of power cable from the Power Supply, that goes to an IDE (PATA) harddrive,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#peripheral

NOTE*
There is usually a square, or rectangle, or two bumps; used on the IDE ribbon cable connector, to line up with the connector on the motherboard, or harddrive, or optical drive.

It is called a Locating Lug.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PATA-cable.jpg

This particular IDE data cable connector, has two raised bumps, for a Locating Lug.

It lines up with a Cutout in the motherboard's connector, or the harddrive's connector, or the optical drive's connector.

IF, there is NO Locating Lug, use the faint Red stripe on the side of the IDE data cable.
The red stripe is on the same side as Number 1 wire.

Number 1 wire goes to number 1 pin.
On a harddrive, or optical drive, number 1 pin is ALWAYS closest to the power cable connection,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#peripheral

Looking at the photo number 1 pin is on the Right side. It is closest to where the 4-pin Peripheral power cable plugs in.

B) SATA:

Looking at the motherboard photo, the Yellow, and Blue, and Black, and White connectors; to the left of the Blue IDE connector, and Black IDE connector; are SATA connectors.

SATA 1 is Black. This is where the SATA harddrive's data cable, is supposed to plug in.

The BEAUTY of SATA though, is that you can plug the harddrive into ANY of those SATA connectors on the motherboard, and BIOS will find the harddrive. (Or any other peripheral device)

An example of a SATA data cable, and it's connector,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SATA_ports.jpg

The red SATA connector shown below the SATA cable example, is just a different style of SATA motherboard connector; than what your motherboard uses.

Note the L-shaped opening in the SATA data cable's connector.
Lines up with the L shape on the motherboard connector, or harddrive connector, or optical drive connector.

Most SATA data cable connectors, also have a Lock on them.
Sometimes it's a Lock you can easily see.

Most times, it is a small depression you depress with your thumbnail, or a little 'bulb' you depress.
Depress/unlock to plug the cable in, or remove the cable.

The 90 degree angle connector end, (As shown), plugs into the harddrive, or optical drive. The Straight connector end plugs into the motherboard.

This is an example of a SATA power cable,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#sata

Between it, and the SATA data cable connector, it is the larger of the two.
SATA power cable connector has 15-pins.
SATA data cable connector has 7-pins.

Also note the rectangular depression on the SATA power cable's connector. That is where you depress to unlock the connector.
The SATA power cable's connector also has an L-shaped opening.

2) IF, you are trying to hook up a laptop harddrive to this motherboard, you need to determine if the laptop harddrive is an IDE (PATA) type, or a SATA type.

How?
Easy.

There is a label on the laptop harddrive. It has the manufacturer code on it. Type the number/letters in your browser search bar, and click on the search icon. (Magnifying Glass)

Now purchase an external enclosure.

The external enclosure opens up, and the laptop harddrive goes inside, and plugs into an interface.

Close the external enclosure, and plug it's USB cable into any available, open USB port on your computer.

It will be a 2.5 external enclosure.
Harddrive's are measured across their width.

A desktop harddrive is 3.5 inches across in width.
A laptop harddive is 2.5.

Example of a 2.5 IDE (PATA) external enclosure,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1086960&CatId=2782

Example of a 2.5 SATA external enclosure,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3195233&CatId=2783

For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Jan 28, 2013 | HP Compaq Motherboard

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Gateway gt4016 motherboard


It has Parallel ATA

PATA or also generally known as IDE,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA

1) Harddrive:
101311 - Western Digital, 200-GB, 7200RPM, PATA harddrive,

http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/R/1008842/1008842cl2.shtml

2) Motherboard:
105553 FIC KTBC51G

http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/FIC/105553/105553nv.shtml

Product Views; F - Primary IDE Connector,

http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/FIC/105553/105553mvr7.shtml

Left side of motherboard, near the black long Ram Memory slots.
This is where the Harddrive plugs in.

Product Views; E - Secondary IDE Connector;

http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/FIC/105553/105553mvr6.shtml

Near the black long Ram Memory slots, and next to the blue Primary IDE Connector.


This is Serial ATA, or also known as SATA,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA

Uses this style of SATA data cable, and connector on motherboard,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SATA_ports.jpg

(NOTE* Color does NOT matter for cable connector.
Color really doesn't matter, for a SATA connector on the motherboard, either.

You are supposed to plug the Primary SATA harddrive, into the SATA 1 connector, on the motherboard.
The beauty of SATA is, that you can plug into any Ol' SATA connector on the motherboard, that you want to.

BIOS will find the harddrive with the Operating System on it, and will find all the other SATA devices plugged into the motherboard, too )

You do NOT have SATA.

Regards,
joecoolvette

[You may be interested in this,

What's Inside: Computer > Computer Hardware > Explore These Categories,

http://computer.howstuffworks.com/

Also to the left;
Computer Peripherals
Computer Security
Computer Software
Internet

And,

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/

Click on the headings at the top;
Case, (Computer cases), Cooling, CPU, (Processor), Input, Memory, etc.

Has basic information leading up to technical ]

Nov 30, 2012 | Computers & Internet

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Will xw4300 accept compaq S6200cl hard drive


HP XW4300 Workstation Desktop PC specs,

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12260_na/12260_na.HTML

Scroll down to you come to the bold heading -
Standard Features - Specs
Go down the chart on the left side until you come to -
Interfaces Supported

1 SATA 3Gb/s interface (4 Serial-ATA connectors), 1 EIDE interface for optical drives

One EIDE interface. That is the Blue 40-pin connector, on the right side of the Ram Memory slots. (39-pin actually)

(Right next to the Black Floppy Drive 34-pin connector, and above the 4 SATA connectors)


Compaq Presario S6200cl Desktop PC >Main Support page,

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&product=390423

Product Information > Product Specifications > Product Specifications,

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00056951&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&product=390423

Scroll down to the bold heading -
Hard drive

120GB Ultra DMA

It is an EIDE harddrive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA

HP XW4300 Workstation motherboard example,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-XW4200-XW620-DDR2-MOTHERBOARD-358701-001-SOCKET-775-/110904128317?pt=Motherboards&hash=item19d266b33d

The answer is Yes.

Connect just the EIDE harddrive from the Compaq.
Make sure the correct jumper pins on the back of the harddrive, have a jumper cap on them to set them to Single;

OR,

The IDE harddrive model you have may Not use a jumper cap on any jumper pins, for some models of harddrives, to set the harddrive as Single.

Look up the harddrive jumper settings on the internet.
Start with the model number on the label of the harddrive.

Example; WD2500JB
Western Digital 250GB harddrive that is IDE. (EIDE)
Western Digital jumper settings for IDE (EIDE) harddrives,

http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/463/c/123/session/L3RpbWUvMTM1MjE4NDY3Ni9zaWQvQnoxcVF6YWw%3D

You will need a SATA optical drive now.
BIOS Setup > Boot Options > Set the first boot device to CDROM.
Install Windows disk.

Use IDE harddrive, and IDE optical drive on the same flat ribbon IDE cable?
Can be done, but usually is a HEADACHE, and MAY not work.
BIOS looks to see what drives are connected. It looks for the drive with the Operating System on it. (Windows)

Now put a disk in the optical drive. Time has to be divided between the harddrive, and the optical drive.
IF it does work; when you are using the computer, and the optical drive you will know the real meaning of Slow.

Have a SATA optical drive?

Regards,
joecoolvette

Nov 05, 2012 | ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe : ATX Socket A FSB400...

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I need to buy a internal hard drive for a Philips Freeline LS2200. Can you advise me if I need a 2.5 or 3.5 inches?


The Philips Freeline LS2200 uses a 320GB SATA Seagate, 3.5 inch width harddrive. (7200RPM)
The usual desktop sized harddrive.

Due to the low costs of SATA desktop harddrives, I would recommend at least a 500GB unit,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4499974&CatId=2459

For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Jul 24, 2011 | Computers & Internet

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How to change hard drive


change your hard drive by replacing another hard drive with ide a belt type one end to the mother board and other end to the harddrive..... then another wire that comes from your smps box in your cabinet with red blue green colours connect it to your hard drive thats it..

if your harddrive is sata then do the same in the sata

Jul 03, 2010 | MPC Computers (9052701) PC Desktop

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I have a acer aspire t180 desktop with a 250gb hitachi scsi (ide) hd. I would like to know which hard drives are compatible so that I can exchange it. thanks


It's a SATA harddrive, not SCSI.

Serial ATA

Acer Support > Aspire T180 > Specifications >

http://www.acersupport.com/acerpanam/desktop/0000/Acer/AspireT180/AspireT180sp2.shtml

Will use up to a 400GB SATA harddrive according to Acer.

IDE stands for Integrated Drive Electronics.
Another name is PATA.
Parallel ATA
Used to distinguish between IDE and SATA.

1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Drive_Electronics

2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA

3) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCSI

Exchange it?
Your harddrive has the Operating System on it.
A new harddrive will not have an O/S on it.
(Windows XP is an example of an O/S)

It would be much easier to install the harddrive you wish into an external enclosure, and plug the external enclosure's USB cable into your T180.

One example of a desktop size harddrive SATA external enclosure,
(3.5 inch SATA external enclosure.
3 and 1/2 inches across in width, for a desktop harddrive.
Laptop HD's are 2.5)

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2145406&CatId=2780

Jun 18, 2010 | Acer Aspire™ T180 PC Desktop

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Which hard disc drive is better for pc sata or pata.


hi SATA in my opinion is better, one for air circulation also speed, and the modern motherboards can have from 2 to 6+ SATA ports, which is better than just having 2 ports for 4 items, so i would go for a SATA any day...hope that helps

Jun 16, 2010 | Hitachi Computers & Internet

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I have a samsung hmo 6011 harddrive can i replace it with a samsung f3 sata 11 drive


If the samsung hmo 6011 harddrive (couldn't find that model) is SATA then yes, and SATA drive will work. The only thing to make sure is that you get the right size; for a laptop or PC. If the samsung hmo 6011 harddrive is IDE (has pins) then no, they cannot directly replace with a SATA.
Here is a good comparison picture http://www.laptopparts101.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/sata-ide-laptop-hard-drive.jpg

Feb 03, 2010 | Computers & Internet

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Sometimes the hard drive will connect and sometimes it won't.


There have been problems plaguing the LaCie external harddrives, for quite some time now.

The issue directly relates to the interface, inside the external enclosure. I don't know if you are acquainted with harddrive designs, or the interface that they plug into. If you are, disregard the following.

This is an average example of an IDE harddrive, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hard_drive-en.svg
Looking at this illustration, note where it points to -> IDE Connector. The illustration isn't very good, but those dots are metal pins.
The connection inside your external harddrive,
that connects to the harddrive itself, is called an Interface. This is a plug that has socket holes, to match those metal pins.

Now we go a little deeper. There are two types of harddrives. One is an IDE harddrive, the other type is a SATA harddrive. Your LaCie
will have a SATA harddrive inside.
Instead of the 40 pins that an IDE harddrive has, the interface for a SATA harddrive has 7.
(It has 15 pins for the power connection)

Now my solution:
Should you wish to save data that is on your LaCie external harddrive right now, I suggest you buy an external enclosure, (SATA), take out the hardrdive thats in your LaCie, and install it in the enclosure.

Since, the dimensions of the, LaCie design by Porsche 160GB external harddrive are:
Height -> 1.4 inches, (About 1-1/2 inches)
Width -> 4.4 inches, (About 4-1/2 inches)
Length -> 7.4 inches, (About 7-1/2 inches),
I'm willing to bet the harddrive inside is a desktop harddrive size. (3.5 inches across in width)
http://www.lacie.com/download/datasheet/porsche_hd_en.pdf

These are examples of 3.5 inch SATA external enclosures,
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=2780&name=3.5-eSATA-enclosure&Nav=|c:2778|&Sort=0&Recs=10
(A $25 or $35 unit will work just fine)

Jul 18, 2009 | LaCie Design by F. A. Porsche 160 GB Hard...

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