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What is the best colour adjustment to have monitor on for output printing? Image management or photo retouch?

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  • aquashell007 Sep 28, 2009

    Thankyou geekinator, i should of been more specific. The monitor is a 109 E5, not the S model that seems to come up in my searches.
    The monitor control settings are: general use, image managment,photo retouch, sRGB, and user settings. Not sure which one to use so have set to 'factory settings' for general use' There is no 'smart setting' as with the 'S' model. I realise sRGB is mainly used for internet imagery but could i get away with using it in my out sourced printing that is usually converted to CMYK?

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Hello there aquashell007.

Here's your GEEK-steer ...

I infer from your question that it's your belief the quality and/or accuracy of your monitor's output has an effect on the output of your printer, etc. This is not so. Not anymore than by having your monitor turned off, your printer would print a black sheet. In fact, the only thing your monitor's output has an effect on is its viewer ... you.

However, this does bring up an interesting related issue: How can you know if your monitor is truly diplaying orange ... oranges, and green ... greens, and light ... lights, and so on. You can, with calibration software.

There are many freeware choices available to you. "Monitor Calibration Wizard" is one I've used occasionally in the the past over a period of many years.

It is my hope you find this GEEK-steer ... illuminating.

Good luck, and thanks in advance for posting back ...

  • to let me (and others) know how things worked out,
  • if you have any further questions,
  • to provide clarification or feedback.
"Today's the best day of my life ... and NOW you're part of it!"
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    Craig The Geekinator Sep 26, 2009



    @aquashell007



    After reviewing your original question, I now see that I clearly misunderstood it.



    I believed your question was asking what was the best setting within your monitor's configuartion setup (e.g., On-Screen-Display OSD) which could improve (1) printing, (2) image managment, and (3) photo retouching. I blew right past your first question mark as if your were ticking off three seperate output/processing related activities. Hence my reply discussing that whatever you adjust, or see on, your monitor has bearing on what any output will look like.



    I now see that you were asking which of the two setting names ("Image management" or "photo retouch") is better.



    But I'm still not clear if you were you referring to which of these two choices is best to select within a monitor related setup, or one of your printer setups?



    Nonetheless, now I hope I haven't just discombobulated you even further as I apologize for the confusion on my part.



    "Today's (still) the best day of my life ... and NOW you're (still) part of it!"
    Via-con-Dios and Godspeed -- Craig

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    Craig The Geekinator Sep 29, 2009



    @aquashell007



    Thanks so much for posting back. Moreover, thanksX2 for the follow-up detail that listed all your adjustments options, as well as ... "I realize sRGB is mainly used for internet imagery but could i get away with using it in my out sourced printing that is usually converted to CMYK?".



    Hallelujah! I can now see that I actually did initially strike the right chord, despite my bit of follow-up confusion. We both were going in precisely the same direction, towards the same destination, but from two different paths (if you will).



    YOUR OBJECTIVE: You want as accurate a color representation as possible of the materials you produce, and have that match what your print shop prints. In other words, what YOU SEE, is what you GET.



    Which is partially why I suggested the "Monitor Calibration Wizard"? Because it can help calibrate your monitor to display as true a STANDARD color spectrum as possible. This is done not merely to make its viewer feel warm & fuzzy about what they are seeing, but much more importantly to achieve the objective of a STANDARD of UNIFORMITY. Thanks to you having mentioned your sRGB setting option, it's doubtful you need trouble yourself with "Monitor Calibration Wizard". Why? Because by using the sRGB setting you should essentially realize the same objective. A review of this passage from your monitor's documentation should bring you the remainder of the distance to that destination we both were heading towards:



    [QUOTE] [my emphasis added]



    sRGB is a standard for ensuring correct exchange of colors between different devices (e.g. digital cameras, monitors, printers, scanners, etc.).



    Using a standard unified color space, sRGB will help represent pictures taken by an sRGB compatible device correctly on your sRGB enabled Philips monitors. In that way, the colors are calibrated and you can rely on the correctness of the colors shown on your screen.



    Important with the use of sRGB is that the brightness and contrast of your monitor is fixed to a predefined setting as well as the color gamut. Therefore it is important to select the sRGB setting in the monitor's OSD.



    To do so, open the OSD by pressing the OK button on the front of your monitor. Use the down button to go to Color temperature and press OK again. Then move the down button to go to sRGB and press OK again. Exit this OSD.



    After this, please don't change the brightness or contrast setting of your monitor. If you change either of these, the monitor will exit the sRGB mode and go to a color temperature setting of 6500K.



    [END QUOTE]



    == SUGGESTIONS ==


    • If you capture any images from a sRGB capable device, be sure it is set appropriately.

    • Make mention to your printer that you use the sRGB standard.

    • Always insist to your printer that they produce verification sample(s) of any large jobs prior to full production (I'm sure you probably already know this though, and so should he, but sadly, this still requires mention).

    • If you don't get acceptable results between product and print, you may want to then consider a go at "Monitor Calibration Wizard".

    Good luck, and thanks in advance for posting back ...


    • to let me (and others) know how things worked out,

    • if you have any further questions,

    • to provide clarification or feedback.

    "Today's the best day of my life ... and NOW you're part of it!"
    Via-con-Dios and Godspeed - Craig

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