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Pump is constantly cycling on and off at the pressure limits of 40 and 60psi, respectively , when the water is being used.

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Do you have a tank with a air bladder inside or do you have one with a air valve on the side?

I suspect you have a tank with an air valve. If that is the case, yours sounds like a classic case of "air bound". There is the possibility that you have a Blue tank with a air bladder inside trhat does not have a air valve on the side - but lets talk about the classic tank now.

Your pump is "short cycling" because there is very little air cushion at the top of your tank. What you need to do is get more air into your tank. Turn off your pump. Turn off the main water valve. Open the tank drain. Press in the (probably) black ball on the side of the air valve. Let the water all drain out. When the tank is empty, let go the black ball, close the tank drain, turn on the pump. When it stops, open the water main to the house.

Let me know what happens.

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The motor is holding pressure in the line.
Check the manual.
I don't think it is supposed to cycle that much.
If it's not designed to do that, then there is a seal or a bearing that is leaking.
It's letting water pressure escape the hose by letting water seep back into the pump.
The motor is pushing more pressure into the line to keep up with the internal leak.
Two times a second seems like a lot, and the noise is probably annoying.
If the unit is new, take it back.
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