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GOES INTO SUDS THEN TO F35 CODE. WHEN THIS HAPPENS CANNOT TURN POWER OFF.

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Check the drain line for kinks or obstructions and check out the pump. It's not only if the water drained, but how fast it drained. I would remove the hoses from the pump and use a flashlight to look into the suction port on the pump. Look for anything clogging the pump (like the occasional stray sock,etc) An obstructions can cause a longer drain time. Check the pump impeller and make sure it has no broken or missing blades and that the impeller spins freely. If any blades are broken/missing or if you can't get the impeller to spin freely, the pump is bad. Hopefully it's just a clogged line, pump, or jammed impeller. Sorry for your trouble and I hope this helped. Best wishes.

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I keep getting either SUDS or the F35 code. I finally was able to get it to run so I ran it without detergent. Now I tried it again and it is back to SUDS again. Any ideas?


ok...run unit on rinse and spin only,,we need cold water,,if unit still shows sud error make sure drain hose is not kinked,,,if we still have a sud condiction or error ,,remove toe panel and clean filter.good luck

Sep 07, 2011 | Kenmore Elite HE5t Washer

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I have an F35 Code that keeps comming up. I start the washer and then it says code SUDS after spining out then it goes into F35 Code. I'm using the HE Soap.


Hi, Both of these fault codes point to a pressure switch issue. If you remove the top panel, three screws in the back, you will have access to the pressure switch. With the tub empty, remove the vinyl hose from the switch and blow backwards through the hose to clear any restrictions. If the fault codes return after diong this, you will likely need to replace the pressure switch

Sep 17, 2010 | Kenmore Elite 45986 Front Load Washer

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Whirlpool duet wfw9600ta01 with the common "suds/F35" error code. Yes......we've been using the right soap. suds starts one minute into cycle followed by the F35 code immediately after the suds cycle...


WARNING: THIS WRITE-UP IS COMPLETELY MY OPINION BASED ON MY EXPERIMENTATION WITH THE EQUIPMENT. TRY ANY OF IT AT YOUR OWN RISK. YOU WILL BE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE CONSEQUENCES (GOOD OR BAD EITHER WAY) THAT YOU MAY REAP FROM THE MACHINE YOU WORK ON.


I made the biggest mistake of taking the whirpool WFW9600TA01 from US to India - I had been totally frustrated with the SUDS/F35 issue, absolutely as explained in the question above.


I started as a novice but feel very confident to write this solution now. There are several areas that could cause this problem. Fundamentally, as the water fills the tub, the pressure form the pressure switch is sensed. If the value is not in line with what is programmed, you get this error. This deviation in pressure value can be caused by any of the below reasons.


First and foremost thing I would do is remove (disassemble - note very carefully the assembly and the position before disassembling. You will need to reassemble in the exact same way in the exact same position) and clean all the pipes, hoses and connectors


Details:

The problem could occur because of:

1. True suds formation due to wrong soap usage (pretty often the problem) - Solution for this? - use a lot of vinegar and a few "risnse and spin" cycles with out any clothes in the washer


2. The pressure switch could have gone bad. Solution - replace the pressure switch (I would do this the last though)


3. There could be dirt collected at the water inlet. Solution remove the water inlet and clean the cup shaped strainer


4. Your outlet/drain pump (the one that pumps the water out of the washer into the drain) may have worn out, there by not draining out all the water. This will leave residual water impacting the next run. Solution replace the pump assembly


5. There may be particle collection such as coins pens, small pins etc in the darn pump inlet strainer causing the drain pump to not work properly and in turn causing SUDS/F35. Solution - remove the front of the drain pump inlet and remove the particles and restart.


6. There is a conical shaped connector connecting the outlet of the tub to the inlet of the drain pump. At one side of this connector (the broader side connecting to the tub) there is a plastic ball in it. If the ball is punctured, water may have collected in it causing it to weigh more than what it is supposed to. When the drain pump runs, the weight of this ball may counter act to not allow proper draining of the water. This residual accumulation of the water will cause SUDS/F35 in the next cycle. Solution - replace that flexible connector. Atleast drain the water from the front at the drain pump inlet, if you want the washer to work for that cycle.


7. There is a small white plastic tube at the back which runs a black tube to the pressure swtich. The assembly is pretty interesting. It is a simple insertion with the air tightness being achieved by a simple rubber gasket covering the insertable part (do not know why the design is such). After a few washes due to the vibration generated by the tub during wash, this gasket can move causing air leaks. Such air leaks do not cause any issue to the current run, but will result in a SUDS/F35 in the next run. It will remain so for al the next runs unless it is re-inserted properly. Solution for this? every time open the rear and make sure the plastic white part is pushed in well.


8. There are other reasons like the main control circulatory / mother board could have gone bad etc. You can figure if this is the problem by running the diagnostic tests for the most part - there is a good chance that only a certified technician can tell you. Solution - replace the mother board (quite stupid huh!!)


9. Finally, the steamer assembly could have gone bad - Although the manual says this, I cannot quite figure out how this would affect the pressure buildup in the tub - I do not know what to do. More than likely if you invite a technician, the person might ask you to replace this assembly.


Try everything - the net effect should be that you have plugged all air leaks. I know some expect to see water leaks at place where air leak exists. That may not be true at all. Good luck with everything.

Jul 06, 2010 | Washing Machines

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F 35 code and suds code


Hello, F35 has to do with the pressure switch which is located under the top panel on the back right. It will have a little black hose hooked to it. This happens when SUDS or detergent somehow gets up into it and usually locks unit out. Only solution is to replace pressure switch. You can find the tech sheet behind the bottom front panel usually tape to the back side of that panel or taped to the bottom right side inside unit.

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May 19, 2010 | Kenmore Elite 45986 Front Load Washer

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Suds and F35 keep shuting down my laundry day:(


Remove the service panel and see if the filter has something in it77cb04b.jpg2402fad.jpgf032166.jpg

May 02, 2010 | Whirlpool Duet GHW9150P Front Load Washer

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Error f35? What's the fix?


They can and fixed my washer today! The fix was the replacement of a switch. The item # was W10156252 for my washer. It is called a switch-WL. Item # may be different for your model. I was getting SUDS and F35 errors. To install it you just remove the top part of the washer and should be located at the upper right-hand side, attached to a black hose. The switch has a small computer board. The price of the swith is around $130. Fortunately I bought a 3-year warranty on my washer.

Apr 18, 2010 | Kenmore Elite HE5t Washer

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I start the machine the suds flashes then it goes away and the F35 flashes and nothing happends I tried to use the clean washer cycle and it still comes up F35 then when I try to push the cancel button the...


If this is a steam unit you have a bad analog pressure switch,has been a common issue in those units,Gives an F35 core and sometimes a SUD code. 

Sep 20, 2009 | Washing Machines

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My Kenmore Elite HE5t washer flashes SUD continually, then goes to F35 mode and shuts off. Help!


Sometimes the SUDS/F35 is because of TOO MUCH detergent. To clear you have to set the cycle on rinse and then keep pouring cups of water into the detergent container as the cycle is going. You might have to do this a few times because if the SUDS message comes up the water flow will stop. Just unplug and try again. Also when the detergent container is finally clear you will see the little rotators gears move around when the cycle starts.

Aug 02, 2009 | Kenmore Washing Machines

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F35 error and suds ?


F35 is a water level error.
The water level switch (pressure switch) has malfunctioned.

If you remove the top panel, three screws in the back, you will have access to the pressure switch.

With the tub empty, remove the vinyl hose from the switch and blow backwards through the hose to clear any restrictions.

If the fault codes return after doing this, you will likely need to replace the pressure switch.


Also - please be sure to use He soap.

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Mar 31, 2009 | Kenmore Washing Machines

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