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UNABLE TO GET GOOD CREMA ON TOP OF COFFEE:

I have used different grinds (fine,extra fine) but sill unable to produce a good crema surface on the coffee. Is this the problem? or is it something else?

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It could be. Your grind should determine the amount of time that it takes the shot to pour. Standard is 18 - 30 seconds. I prefer 25. If it only takes 10 sec, your crema will be weak.
Are your beans fresh? Older beans produce less crema. By old, I mean more than a month if properly stored.
What is the temperature of you shots? The water coming out of the head should be about 195 F which makes the shots roughly 170-185. If it's too cold, you'll get worse crema. It's also possible to have mostly steam in contact with the grounds which will give the same results. Both indicate other problems.
Make sure your group head screen isn't clogged. And make sure everything is very clean, especially inside the handle (under the grounds basket - just pop it out with a screwdriver). Good luck!

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I have turned the grind knob all the way down, below 1.


Sounds like there is not enough coffee to make a solid puck. If you get crema, grind coarseness sounds ok. A finer grind will produce less coffee grounds for the puck and increases chance of clogging.
You may have to balance grind size with amount of crema to get solid puck.
Big problem with these is you want dark roast for espresso, but oil on beans clogs grinder. Are you using a dark roast? A medium roast works better in these. Or, can you increase the grind time? My Super-auto had a program option to increase time. But not in reg instructions. Got it from authorized repair facility.

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Dispenses very little CREMA. Is there something to adjust?


Rule of thumb - espresso machines deliver a shot of coffee in 25 to 35 seconds.

If there is no crema and the coffee comes faster:
  1. There is not enough coffee in the portafilter (7 grams per shot).
  2. The coffee is not tamped enough (about 30 lb pressure on the tanmper handle).
  3. The grind is too coarse.
If the above does not "fix" the crema problem, post again and include make and model of the machine and type of portafilter.

Good luck.

Apr 27, 2015 | Coffee Makers & Espresso Machines

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Why is my coffee weak?


If it is a drip maker, only gravity drives the hot water thru the coffee grinds. If the coffee is ground too fine, it immediately packs up and doesn't let water flow thru it and the water flows around the coffee instead of thru it.
Try using a coarser grind, and if not you can use a lot smaller amount of coffee and water. A smaller amount of coffee is easier to diffuse thru than a large amount.

Another thing is to slow down the water speed entering the coffee basket. I found the best way to do that is to use water just above freezing and place that extra cold water in the reservoir. The cold water takes extra time to be heated up by the coffee maker so less water is released over the coffee grinds per minute.

If your coffee maker overflows a lot, that is a good indicator that the grind is too fine and/or your coffee filters are too flimsy and are plugging up the channels in your coffee basket and the coffee can't enter the flask, so it overflows.

But the easiest way to check out your coffee maker is to use extra cold water and just run half batches (5 cup) of coffee instead of 10 cup

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Virtually no crema :-((


If you have tried different coffees and grinds then i would try different packing methods using a tamper to do so. Try packing very firmly to not so firmly and see if that works. Also you might find that you need a new double filter basket. I have seen this in quite a few machines where the holes in the basket can become very slighty enlarged from what they were originally and what this does is allows the coffee to flow through the basket too quickly and therefore leaving you with poor crema by not getting a good extract from the coffee. I hope this helps.

All the best

Mr La Pavoni

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SAECO fully auto Traditional Very little crema


The crema is created by reducing the grinding to more fine so the coffee will run slower around 20 sec. Inside the coffee bean container their is un adjust control and with special tool you can turn it to grind the coffee to more fine.

Jan 03, 2010 | Saeco Royal Professional Espresso Machine

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I have a Krups burr grinder and I am wondering what setting I should use for the 800ESXL?


Hi,

Really, this is personnal, but first you have to acheive an adjustment that makes your coffee possible to extract. Start with the coarser you can and reduce gradually. Do it one portion at the time, don't grind a whole bag !
The result should be a light hazelnut crema color, deep foam without hole in it.
If the crema is light cream color, the grind is too coarse.
If the crema is dark, uneven or runny, the grind is too fine, or you are using a wrong type of coffee (like only robusta, go for 100% arabica), or it's not toasted properly.
If the water doesn't flow at all, your grind is too fine.
It should take not more than 20 seconds to extract the coffee, if it's very short, grind is too coarse, if it takes longer, the grind is too fine.

Good luck,

JF

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? Am I trying to use coffee ground TOO FINE


On my Gaggia Machine I use an Gaggia MDF Grinder on 8 or 9 setting for the best flow. I only use as low as 4 with my Presso Manual Machine

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Weak coffee and pale crema.


If you get weak coffee from espresso machines:

Check water temp, if water temp is insufficient , most common is scale heating element , faulty element, faulty thermostat.
Check if water is dripping right at the center of the filter, if it is dripping on one side because the orifice is clogged, that can result in weak coffee.
Coffee blend not well distributed on filter basket.

On Espresso machines:

Check water temp, same as filter coffee machines (thermostat element, scale on heating chamber).
Ensure that coffee is filled correctly in the filter cup (fill at level), and well pressed.
Ensure that the coffee mixture that you are using is not too coarse, buy the apposite one for espresso.
Ensure that you are not leaving the machine brewing for a time that is too long, and Italian coffee cup is very small, approximately one regular shot.

On the hob moka pots (espresso, Moka and Bialetti type):

This are the trickiest ones, you need art and practice to get a good espresso with a Moka, but when you learn, the result is better than what you may get with an home electrical espresso maker.
The frame on the hob must be not too strong, and the mixture coarse but well pressed, with water at level tag, or you will get a weak coffee.
On Mokas a good strategy is keeping hob at minimum, and turning up the flame at top when coffee starts coming out.


Note: insufficient pressure and clogged lines on electric machines never give you a weak coffee, exactly the opposite.
Not pressed mixture always gives weak coffee, but too much pressed mixture may give you coffee with bad taste.

Jul 16, 2008 | Gaggia Titanium Espresso Machine

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Steam nozzle


For the coffee - make sure the machine has heated up for at least 10 minutes. I've found the grind is the most important in getting a good shot of espresso with a good crema.

It takes trying different grinds to find what works best. When we grind at the store we choose the second finest grind from the finest - we put it to Turkish and then turn it back one notch.

On the steaming side - it takes practice. Sometimes I get froth, sometimes - I usually let the wand go near the bottom of the steaming cup and heat the milk to 160 deg. f.

Apr 06, 2008 | Rancilio Silvia Espresso Machine

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Silvia


there are two class of expresso coffée: one produce crema and the other none. A 9 sec shot, means you are putting ground coffee that are way too coarse. The Silvia requires coffee grounf extremely fine, near powder texture.
Hope this help

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