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Pilot will light but main burner will not light

Pilot light working-mainburner will not ignite- i have jumped gas valve main burner will light-have checked high limits,pressure switch,roll out, power switch and thermostat - this is millivot heater-natural gas

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If burner lights after jumping valve you have something wrong in thermostat loop. disconnect the 2 thermostat wires on gas valve and use multimeter on continuity setting. if all wires ,connectors and components are good,you will get a tone.since you have jumped out each component in thermostat loop with no success ,i would suspect a bad wire or oxidation on a terminal .

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