man i have the same problem, i was listening to my black 120gb Zune & i just upgraded to firmware 3.0 & now this s*** wont turn on! i been using it 3 days fine, but now it just shut off like its completely dead. i have been charging it for hours & hours & it just doesnt even turn on or have a battery icon or anything! i have it plugged in now too. restarted the computer, everything.... i tried to restart it by pressing back & up... are there any other shortcuts i can try? computer doesnt detect it or ANYTHING!!! HELLLLLP
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