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Anonymous Posted on Sep 15, 2009

Engine stalls at stops and inst cluster goes off w/headlite on

I have a 1989 Pontiac G. Prix, 2.8L that after it warms up it runs great but will stall when coming to a stop. I have replaced fuel pump, screen,filter and spark plugs. (Problem 2) Also, everything works on the instrument cluster, however when I turn on the park lights or headlights, the instrument panel lights, speedometer, odometer, tachometer go off and do not change by moving the dimmer control switch. The radio display and led blower/heater display works, dims and remains on and will go bright to dim with the dimmer control switch.

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Check the alternator charge level .
check the battery + and - are not lossing
if nothing then you have wiring short

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