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Tub drain stopper won't close

I have the type of stopper in my tub that you twist and pull up at the same time to close. And then do the reverse to open. Someone was cleaning my tub and unscrewed the stopper all the way off. I screwed it back in, but now it won't close at all.

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Hi, looking at this straight on, you will see 2 screws going through the lever plug section. What it looks like on the inside, is a long brass rod connected to another brass rod with a adjustable section on it and a brass looking piston at the end. If you remove the 2 screws, grab hold of the lever and chrome plate and pull straight out and up to remove the assembly.No worry, nothing will fall in as it is all one piece. You can try cleaning the lever section up and add some wd-40 to it and this may help some. It sounds to me like the lever ball joint is worn out, so it is best replaced. Home Depot has them for under $20.00. Take the old one with you and if need be you can adjust the new one to the same length as the old one. It will keep hanging up on you believe me. Good Luck,

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yes it can be changed without removing the tub, but you must open up wall, floor whatever it takes to be able to see all this drainage, as you can see, you can't change the parts from in the tub,.....good luck, cracklin joe

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Hi it may well do clogged up in drain hole or it may have come loose inside try tighenting up

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