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Which is the suitable graphics card for my motherboard?

I need graphics card for my chipset..

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  • ganesh_ganna Sep 09, 2009

    intel LGA775. (945gc) I've PCi Ex slot.. And i need it for gaming..

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    joecoolvette May 11, 2010

    And the motherboard is?

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We should know what kind of computer you have, and what chipset is on the motherboard.
What are you planning to do with the card installed. Play games? What kind of card is suggested by a game? (if it is to be used for gamming).
More information would help.

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What would be the best compatible 512 MB GPU(with shader 3 or 4) working with P4I45GV 3.00 /P4 2.4 GHZ/1 Gb ram ?


http://www.asrock.com/MB/overview.asp?Model=P4i45GV%20R5.0

Any of them Shubham.

If we are to discern by a few known statements;

1) It is believed in some 'geek communities', that using the same manufacturer of motherboard chipset, and graphics chipset; to be a good thing.

For example an AMD motherboard chipset 'plays well' with an AMD ATI graphics chipset;

Nvidia motherboard chipset 'plays well' with Nvidia graphics chipset.

Intel motherboard chipset with Intel graphics..............no wait,....... there is no Intel graphics chipset, unless it is -> Integrated Graphics.
[ Intel GMA ]

(Integrated Graphics is also said as OnBoard graphics. ON the motherBOARD)

2) DOES NOT MATTER what graphics memory type is used.

Motherboard can use DDR Sdram ram memory, and graphics card can use GDDR5.

Why?
Because the graphics card has it's own Processor, and Ram Memory.

Graphics Processing Unit, or GPU; is the Processor,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPU

Graphics memory is the ram memory.

Operates independent of the system resources.
Processor, and Ram Memory.

The graphics expansion slot on the P4I45GV (P4 i 45GV), is an AGP slot.
Accelerated Graphics Port,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGP

It will use an AGP 4X, or AGP 8X graphics card.
Use an AGP 8X.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/search.asp?keywords=agp+graphics+card+512mb

REMEMBER;

1) ALWAYS follow Anti-Static Precautions.

2) INSTALL the software for the graphics card F-I-R-S-T,
(Drivers and 'control panel')

THEN unplug the computer from power, follow Anti-Static Precautions, and Physically plug the graphics card into the motherboard, and install.

3) L@@k at the system requirements (Minimum) for the graphics card.
Specifically the Power Supply requirements. You need a Power Supply with enough Wattage, to handle the graphics card.

[ Handles the graphics card, and -> Motherboard, Processor, Ram Memory, and peripherals; Internal and External.
{Harddrive/s, optical drive/s; Internal
Mouse, Keyboard, external harddrive, etc; External ]

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
Regards,
joecoolvette

Nov 17, 2012 | Computers & Internet

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Show video card Aspire 1691


I concur with Chris about this laptop model, (NOT that Chris needs me to concur)

If I may;

For the Aspire 1690 series of Notebook PC's, the graphics chipset is soldered directly to the motherboard.

There are models of laptops that DO indeed have a separate graphics, or video card. They use the MXM technology.

The Acer Aspire 1691wlmi Notebook PC, may have either the ATI Mobility Radeon X600 GPU, or the ATI Mobility Radeon X700 GPU.
(Graphics Processing Unit, or also known as the graphics chipset)

This is one example of the ATI Mobility Radeon X600 graphics chipset,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-ATI-Mobility-Radeon-X600-216PDAGA23F-BGA-Chipset-/280796092668?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4160c058fc

You are looking at a Top View, as it is mounted on the motherboard.
What you do not see is the method of mounting.
This graphics chipset is mounted to the motherboard, via a BGA surface mount.

Ball Grid Array.
To explain the BGA surface mount;
Compare to an older Intel Pentium 4 desktop processor, that uses a Socket 478 processor socket,

The processor has contact pins on the bottom of it's circuit board. 478 of 'em.
The processor socket has matching socket holes. (478),

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_478

With a BGA surface mount there are no contact pins, on the bottom of the graphics chipset, as used on an older Intel Pentium 4 processor. (That uses a Socket 478 processor socket)

There are no socket holes in a processor socket.
No socket on the motherboard.

In place of the contact pins, there are Solder Balls on the bottom of the graphics chipset.
In place of the socket holes in a socket on the motherboard, there are instead Copper Pads.
(The copper pads are also gold plated)

The graphics chipset is set down on the motherboard, with the Solder Balls lining up on the Copper Pads.
Heat is then applied at a specific temperature, and length of time.
This action melts the solder balls, and solders the graphics chipset to the copper pads.
(Thereby also soldering the graphics chipset TO the motherboard)

This example of one maker, of a SMT/BGA Rework Station at work, will help demonstrate the above method,

http://www.ersa.com/art-ir-pl-650-346-1472.html

Scroll the page down, click on the red -
Take a few minutes to view the IR 650 demo video

That's just the mechanical aspects of replacing/upgrading a GPU, using a BGA surface mount.
Now you need to look into what will work.

The motherboard chipset determines what hardware components, can be used on a motherboard.
The motherboard chipset, as used on the Acer Aspire 1690 series of Notebook PC's, uses a Northbridge chip, and a Southbridge chip.

(Chip and Chipset are slang terms for I.C.
Integrated Circuit,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_circuit

The Integrated Circuit, or chipset, that is used for graphics, is the graphics chipset, or G.P.U.,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPU )

The Northbridge chip handles the faster capabilities of a computer.
Handles the Processor, Ram Memory, and High-speed graphics.

A graphics chipset using the PCI bus is NOT high-speed graphics.
(Such as a PCI graphics card inserted into a PCI slot, on a desktop computer motherboard)
Integrated graphics is also Not high-speed graphics.

High-speed graphics uses an AGP bus, or a PCI-Express bus.
The ATI Mobility Radeon X600, and X700 graphics chipset, on the Acer Aspire 1690 series of Notebook PC's, uses a PCI Express x16 bus,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Mobility_Radeon_X300.2C_X600.2C_X700.2C_X800_Series

IF, your Aspire 1690 series Notebook PC, uses an ATI Mobility Radeon X600 graphics chipset, and you wanted to upgrade to an ATI Mobility Radeon X700 graphics chipset, it would not be worth your trouble.

By the time you buy the X700 chipset, have the X600 removed, and X700 installed, it would be cheaper, and wiser to just buy a better laptop.

[ One I bought for work to use on Electronic Technical Manual's, is an Acer Aspire 5552-3691
1) AMD Athlon II X2 P340 (Dual Core) processor
2) 4GB of DDR3 Sdram (SO-DIMM) ram memory at 1066MHz
3) ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250 graphics chipset.
Price? $398.00USD.

Not the best by FAR. But MUCH better than what you have presently.
Just food for thought ]

Just thought you would like to know why, it isn't feasible to try to upgrade the graphics chipset.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
Regards,
joecoolvette

Jun 06, 2012 | Acer Aspire 1691WLMi PC Notebook

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How do i change my graphics card


Yes, and no.

Pretty clear huh? lol!

Let me explain a few rudimentary things first. May be a long read, and a 'bumpy ride'.

ONE:
Laptop manufacturers tend to 'exaggerate', in order to sell laptops.
They can get away with this due to their 'advertising license'.

"This laptop has an XXXXXX graphics card"

When in reality it isn't a graphics card. It is a graphics chipset soldered directly to the motherboard.

The term 'graphics card' is used rather loosely.

A graphics card is actually a graphics adapter card.

The graphics chipset is soldered to a circuit board, or 'card'.

The circuit board has contact pins on it, which plug into a connector on the motherboard.

This is a basic example for a desktop computer,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7168071

A graphics card made by Powercolor, and uses the AMD ATI Radeon HD5450 graphics chipset.

Left-click on the photo of the graphics card shown at the top.
It will come up in a separate window.
In the views at the Bottom, click on the second view from the left.

Here you will see the gold plated contact pins.
To show the gold plated contact pins in more depth, let's look at an average SO-DIMM ram memory module, for a laptop,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1GB_DDR2_SO-DIMM.png

[ You can click on the photo to enlarge. You can enlarge twice ]

These gold plated contact pins go down into a slot. A graphics card slot. (Expansion slot on the motherboard)

For laptops that TRULY do use a graphics adapter card, they use the MXM technology. There IS a graphics adapter card, and it DOES plug into the motherboard.

This is an example of an ATI Radeon HD5450 MOBILE graphics card, that uses the MXM technology,
(Mobile meaning for a laptop. Laptops are a Mobile computer. Can take it with you wherever you go),

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-5450-MXM-Type-A-Graphics-Card-512MB-DDR3-608544-001-/190626056695?pt=UK_Computing_Computer_Components_Graphics_Video_TV_Cards_TW&hash=item2c6232c9f7

Here you see the gold plated contact pins again. Means this mobile graphics card, (Mobile meaning laptop), plugs into the laptop's motherboard.

It is mounted to the laptop's motherboard, with screws through those brass ringed holes you see. (Probably with just two holes)

MOST laptops do not use a graphics adapter card, based on the MXM technology.
They just have a graphics chipset soldered directly to the motherboard.

Let's regress for a moment, and let me explain Chipset, GPU, and BGA surface mount.

Chip and Chipset are slang terms for I.C.
Integrated Circuit,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Circuit

[ A Processor is just ONE example of an Integrated Circuit ]

G.P.U. stands for Graphics Processing Unit,

The chipset, or Integrated Circuit, for graphics, is a GPU,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPU

Left-click on the photo to the upper right, that the heading states,
GeForce 6600GT (NV43) GPU

The actual GPU (Goldish/brown square), is in the center of that square
green circuit board. The GPU uses the green circuit board, to connect to the motherboard.

The entire thing you see is termed as the graphics chipset, or GPU.
This is because that circuit board is actually part of it.

BGA surface mount:
Ball Grid Array,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_grid_array

To explain a BGA surface mount;

Compare to an older Intel Pentium 4 processor, that uses a Socket 478 processor socket,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_478

This particular processor socket has 478 socket holes.
The bottom of the Intel Pentium 4 processor, has 478 contact pins sticking out of the bottom.

With a BGA surface mount there are No contact pins on the chipset, (GPU in this case), nor are there socket holes.

The bottom of the graphics chipset has Solder Balls.
The motherboard area where it mounts, has matching Copper Pads.
(The copper pads have a gold plating on them)

The graphics chipset is set into place, over the matching copper pads on the motherboard, and then heat is applied.

Heat is applied at a specific temperature, and length of time.
This action melts the solder balls, which in turn solders the graphics chipset TO the copper pads.

[ Which in turn of course, solders the graphics chipset TO the motherboard ]

IF, you have a graphics chipset, THAT uses the MXM technology, and IS an actual graphics adapter card, you MAY be able to upgrade it.

IF, the graphics chipset is Integrated Graphics, and therefore uses the BGA surface mount, I would forget about it.

Replacing means using a BGA Rework Machine.

However things get more complicated, than just replacing a graphics chipset, that uses the MXM technology.

It isn't, " OH, it's a graphics card? I'll just take it out, and use a better graphics card."

Depends on what the motherboard chipset is, and what type of graphics interface it uses. PCI, or AGP, or PCI-Express.

(PCI, and AGP, and PCI-Express, are technologies. Doesn't just refer to the type of expansion slot )

Let's look at the specifications, for the Gateway NV59C41u Notebook PC,...(Continued in an additional Comment)


May 17, 2012 | Computers & Internet

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I wnt buy laptop but idk which1 bter and suitable for my software? any1 can help me pls?


For me easy;

1) The Dell Inspiron 15R i5 Notebook PC comes with an Intel i5 processor, model 2410M (2.3GigaHertz frequency rate),

It uses DDR3 at 1066MHz, (Why would you?), or DDR3 at 1333MHz, and up to 8GB's of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_i5_microprocessors#.22Sandy_Bridge.22_.2832_nm.29_3

It has Intel HD Graphics 3000 graphics built-in. (It's in the Intel Core i5 processor. It is Integrated Graphics)

Ummm, no.

2) The Toshiba Satellite L755-S5173 Notebook PC, comes with an Intel Core i5 also.

Model 2450M Intel Core i5 processor;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_i5_microprocessors#.22Sandy_Bridge.22_.2832_nm.29_3

It comes with an Nvidia GeForce GT525M graphics chipset.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_500M_.285xxM.29_series

A LOT better than the Intel HD Graphics 3000 GPU (Graphics Processing Unit), above.

From what I can see it is a graphics chipset soldered to the motherboard,

http://www.irisvista.com/tech/laptops/Toshiba-Satellite-L755-L755D-L750-L750D/dismantle-laptop-3.htm

Click on the photo in Step 27. Bottom view of motherboard.
Look at the black Fan Assembly, and the copper curved Cooling Tube.

Go over to the far left of the Cooling Tube, to the rectangular silvery shape. Has 4 black screws in it. (This metal plate sits on top of the Processor)

In-between this rectangular metal plate, and the bottom of the motherboard, is the Nvidia graphics chipset.

Square dark green shape (Circuit board), with a smaller dark square shape in it. (GPU)

Means it isn't a graphics adapter card, and therefore not upgradeable.

Uses DDR3 Sdram (SO-DIMM) 1333MHz ram memory, and up to 8GB.

3) Lenovo G470 Notebook PC has an Intel Core i5, Model 2450M also.
UP to 8GB's of DDR3 Sdram (SO-DIMM) ram memory, at 1333Megahertz, too.

Intel HD Graphics 3000 is used also. (Integrated Graphics)

Ummm, no.

My choice?
The Toshiba Satellite L755-S5173.

Better graphics.

One of the things you ALWAYS look at for a laptop, because 95 percent of the time you cannot upgrade it.

(A LOT of laptop manufacturers state - Graphics Card, when the truth is it is not a replaceable graphics adapter card, as used in a desktop computer )

This means you are stuck with the graphics of the laptop, until you obtain a better one.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Apr 25, 2012 | Computers & Internet

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Computer dell latitude D610 built in 2006 replacing the viedo card how too's and also what can I do to mabe upgrade this veido card? and dose anything else need to be updated at the same time as the...


Sorry Jimmy, the Dell Latitude D610 Notebook PC uses Integrated Graphics.
There is no graphics card to upgrade.

Your Dell either came with a form of the Intel GMA graphics chipset , or the ATI Radeon Mobility X300 graphics chipset.

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/latd610/en/ug_en/specs.htm

Either/Or

The way Dell states it, (And also this is for a LOT of laptop manufacturers), is that you have either the option when purchasing, of having an Intel GMA chipset for graphics, or discrete graphics of the ATI Radeon Mobility X300, for graphics.

Discrete being the word that fools people. Makes them think it has a dedicated, removable graphics card, when in reality it is a graphics chipset soldered directly to the motherboard, and is not upgradeable.

Primer:
GPU
Graphics Processing Unit,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPU

Essentially the 'graphics engine'.

A GPU can be installed directly on the motherboard, (Integrated Graphics), OR installed on a removable graphics adapter card. (Graphics Card is shortened for graphics adapter card)

Integrated Graphics borrows from the system resources. The Processor and Ram Memory.
This is why programs, for example games, that use a lot of graphics 'power', do not perform well on a computer with Integrated Graphics.

{Read - programs that use a lot of graphics power. Such as some of the newer games. Integrated graphics, depending on what graphics chipset it is, CAN run some games. Ones that are not very graphics intensive}

A dedicated graphics card has it's own processor, and graphics ram memory. Does not need to borrow from the system resources.

Chip and Chipset are slang terms for I.C.
Integrated Circuit,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_circuit

The graphics chipset in your Dell Latitude, is mounted to the motherboard with a BGA surface mount.
Ball Grid Array

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_grid_array

To explain the BGA surface mount;
Let's use the older Intel Pentium 4 processor that uses a Socket 478 processor socket.
The bottom of the processor has contact pins. (478 of 'em)
The processor socket has matching socket holes for the contact pins. (478 of 'em)

With the BGA surface mount there are no contact pins. In place of them are Solder Balls.
There is no socket, or socket holes on the motherboard.
There are Copper Pads.

The graphics chipset is set into place with the Solder Balls lining up on the motherboard's Copper Pads.
Then heat is applied at a specified temperature, and length of time.

The solder balls melt which solders the graphics chipset to the motherboard. (To the Copper Pads)

Removal and replacement is properly performed with a BGA Rework Machine.
Costly, and not something you'll find a local shop performing.
{The machine is costly, and the operator needs to be S-K-I-L-L-E-D. Cost of having a chipset replaced is Ouch!}

There are two ways you can upgrade your graphics.

1) If you have the motherboard model with a form of Intel GMA chipset attached, you can purchase the motherboard that has the ATI Radeon Mobility X300, and install it.

2) Purchase a laptop with better graphics.

{Not trying to be snide}

For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Oct 25, 2011 | Dell Latitude D610 Notebook

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Does my d845gvsr motherboard support a 9500GT graphics card?


9500GT Series graphics card uses PCI Express Slot(16X). As for your Mainboard D845GVSR it comes with AGP Slot(4x or 8x). The graphics card slot on your Mainboard AGP will not fit the PCI Express slot for this Nvidia chipset 9500GT Graphics Card. You cannot use the 9500GT Series card for your mainboard.

The highest Nvidia Graphics card that support AGP Slot is the 7300GT Chipset Series.

Hope it helps.

Jun 17, 2011 | Intel D845GVSR Motherboard

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Graphic card for Intel 945 GCCR Mother Board


Something like one of these
http://bit.ly/cww2xS
everything better than those will be held back by the motherboard's chipset.

May 26, 2010 | Intel D945GCCR Motherboard

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Graphics card for D 101 GGC intel mobo/2.66/p-4/ram 512


Good news, you can upgrade the graphics card with almost any current PCIe (PCI Express) video card. Once you install a new graphics card in your system, the ATI Radeon x200 will be disabled automatically, as per the manual.

The one caveat is that the board is not PCIe 2.0 compliant, so any video card that requires PCIe 2.0 compliance will not work. This is not an issue as almost all modern graphics cards work on PCIe 1.0. However, make sure to check the requirements o fthe card before you buy it.

As for the most suitable graphics card for you, its hard to say without knowing what tasks you wish to use this computer for and what is your budget. If you are only using it for office tasks, then the onboard graphics processor is more than enough for your use.

I should mention, that the motherboard processor support constrains you to the P4 series of CPUs. This is fine for moderate tasks, but if your gola is to play a game like Crysis, then even the most powerful, multiGPU graphics card will only make the game playable. You will probably never be able to max out your frames per second.

That said, the board supports up to a 3.4ghz CPU, which is fast enough to play almost every modern game if you upgrade to a powerful graphics card.

If you wish to do 3D graphics design, I would not recomend upgrading the video card for this purpose. Video rendering and processing stil does rely on the CPU. However, if you look into nvidia's CUDA framekwork, it is possible to offload rendering to the GPU. This is probably not worth the effort unless you are relaly short on cash.

Bottom line is, yes you can upgrade no problem. As for the best video card, I do need to know he reason you wish to upgrade the video card.

Sep 06, 2009 | Computers & Internet

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WINDOWS 98 EXTEND MY WINDOWS DESKTOP


You need to download and install the necessary video drivers for your computer's graphics card chipset.

If your computer has a PCI or AGP graphics card, you can power off your computer and then unplug it, open the computer case, and then check the graphics card to see either its make and model or simply write down the info about its chipset. The main graphics chip on the card, for example, might say SIS 6326. You would then go to the SIS web site and download the Win98 drivers for this graphics chipset.

If the graphics is built into the motherboard, then you can look on the motherboard for the graphics chipset model, or consult the motherboard manual or search online to see what graphics chipset the motherboard uses. Video drivers for motherboard chipsets can be downloaded either from the motherboard manufacturer's web site or from the chipset manufacturer's web site.

Once you have installed the appropriate video chipset drivers, the installation utility should ask you to reboot the computer. After you have rebooted, right-click on the desktop and then go to the Advanced settings. You should now be able to increase the color depth and screen resolution.

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