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Top arm in dishwasher will NOT spin!

I've tried cleaning the arm - nothing in any of the spray holes. Taken off the back run of plastic that feeds the top spray arm - checked for obstructions. Checked the screen (replaced 3 weeks ago because dishwasher wasn't drying dishes). I've taken it all the way to the impeller and still can't find the problem. Also, added water after the initial drain on start-up thinking maybe there just wasn't enough water getting into the unit.

Can anyone suggest something I haven't done yet...besides throw it out into the yard?!

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  • kpaller Sep 12, 2009

    I did disassemble down to the check valve (white plastic bit with two openings) didn't notice anything blocked up. Is there anyway to check the motor before calling the repair guy? Could it be obstructed anywhere else?



    Thanks for getting back to me - I'll keep you posted!

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When you say the top arm does not spin, remember that the LG model x811 family has the Vario feature that alternates between routing the pumped water to the bottom arm and then the top arms alternately. So anytime the dishwasher is washing and rinsing, either the lower or upper arms will be spinning.

If the problem is not above, then the motor that drives the check valve may have failed (or the check valve is obstructed inside.)

Hope that helps. Please post back here with what you find, OK?

Posted on Sep 12, 2009

  • Jeff Meyer Sep 12, 2009

    The check valve is probably not obstructed, given what you have said.



    If you choose to pull the unit, invert it, remove the black support
    frame to get to the Vario motor, you could check the resistance of the
    motor to see if it is shorted. I don't know the proper resistance of
    the working motor, but if it is failed, it is probably shorted.



    Note that places like:

    http://www.repairclinic.com/

    allow you to return parts that you don't need, even if you have opened the package and installed it. Hope that helps.



    Please be careful if you decide to expose the motor, this unit is heavy and you must invert it to do this work.

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  • Improper loading or over loading of dishes and glass ware that blocks the spray arm from rotating; check your user's guide for proper loading methods.
  • the holes in the spray arm can be plugged from food particles or other debris, like coffee grounds; remove the spray arm and clean out the holes; run water through the arm to verify there is no blockage.
  • check to see if the spray arm became disconnected from the feed tube or the feed tube from the water inlet feed hose.; reconnect hose or tighten down on hose clamps
  • check for any filter blockages; remove food particles and debris
  • the tub itself could be under filling, because of a restricted water inlet valve; pour 1 to 2 quarts of water into the tub of the dishwasher and run it; if the performance improves, replace the water inlet valve with a new one; DO NOT try to repair the old valve- it will fail once it's taken apart and put back together.
  • the circulating motor drives a water pump that rotates an impeller, which creates water pressure to go through the washer arms and out the holes. The jetting action of the water pressure exiting the spray arm holes propels the arm to spin...if the water pump impeller is worn, damaged, or impeded by food debris, the cleaning action will be greatly diminished; inspect and clean or replace the impeller if necessary.
  • If the aforementioned trouble shoot and repair methods do not correct the problem, then a more in depth diagnostic check will have to be done by a qualified repair technician to check switches that controls the water/drain pump, (if it is a dual action model for example); to verify if the switch or the pump itself has failed.

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