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My bobbin will not keep winding new thread on the spool. I believe the little wheel inside the machine is worn can this happen

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Yes, the bobbin winder rubber is designed to wear out so it can be replaced for a few dollars rather than $50. Take the top cover off and see if you can work out how to remove it, take it to a sewing service centre as a sample, with the machine and model number and ask for a replacement.

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HOW DO YOU WIND A BOBBIN ON A PFAFF 2022 SEWING MACHINE


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How do I wind the bobbin on Signature J277E sewing machine?


I don't know this specific machine but when I look at a picture of it, I can see part of the bobbin winding gear. There is a small pair of wheels mounted on the front of the machine, on the bottom to the far right side.
It is the tension mechanism for bobbin thread. Is there some type of lever or something on the side of the machine that lifts out, or maybe on the top or the back of the machine ? Has to be there so somewhere, they don't usually hide them.

Once you find that, you put a spool of thread on the spindle, run the thread down and slip it under that little wheel so it's caught between the two of them.. then to the bobbin itself, and thread it through the smallest hole, from inside to outside.

Then pull the hand wheel out, or there may be a smaller dial in the centre of the handwheel that pulls out. This disengages the clutch so the needle won't go up/down.

Hold onto the thread from the bobbin so it can't snap back and tangle, start the motor, let it run at medium speed until either the bobbin is full or it stops winding on its own.

I can't find an image of the sides or back of the machine you have, but that little tension wheel at the bottom right is certainly for the bobbin thread tension, many machines have similar setups.

Have a look for something that you'd slip the bobbin itself onto, and should be good to go. Push the wheel back in when done to reengage the clutch. There might also be a secondary thread spindle to hold thread for the bobbin.. I can't see that in pics either, but if not, put the spool on the usual spindle you use when stitching.

Nov 18, 2014 | Sewing Machines

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HOW TO I WIND BOBBIN ON SINGER 347


If you mean the Singer Style Mate 347, open the face plate and remove the old bobbin. Then, the first step is to hold the hand wheel and loosen the stop-motion screw inside the hand wheel. (Keep the hand wheel from turning with one hand and turn the stop-motion screw towards the front of the machine.) Place your empty bobbin (hole away from the machine) on the spindle near the bobbin winder switch. Feed the thread from the spool on the spool pin through the eyelet on the top of the machine (near the top thread take up) and then down to and around the bobbin tension disc below the on-off power switch. Pass the thread through from the inside of the bobbin to the outside of the bobbin. Move the bobbin winder switch to On and hold onto the end of the thread. Start the machine and let a few winds get placed on the bobbin then stop for a minute. Cut the thread near the bobbin. Restart and continue winding more thread onto the bobbin until you have enough thread or the bobbin is full (it will stop automatically). Move the bobbin winder switch to off and tighten the stop-motion screw.

For pictures, see pages 6-7 in the manual. It's available as a PDF here: http://www.singerco.com/uploads/download/9b8c1ca7584c2bea7837ca4bf5338af7f1b5380e.pdf . (These are pages 8-9 of the PDF.)

I hope this helps.
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Jun 06, 2013 | Sewing Machines

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How do I thread my elna super sewing machine


Hi Marsha, this is pretty straight forward on these beaut Swiss made machines.

Have you managed to wind a bobbin firstly? You need to disenage the clutch by holding the outside of the flywheel and turning the inner coupling knob towards you. Bring up the bobbin winder spindle into a vertical position. Place spool of thread onto one of the spool pins at the rear of the machine, then take the thread from your spool across to the thread guide on the left of the head of the machine, to the inside of the bobbin pull the tail from inside the bobbin up through a hole on top. Place the bobbin on the spindle and TURN IT SLIGHLY UNTIL IT CAN BE PRESSED ALL THE WAY DOWN. While holding the protuding end of the thread wind a few turns of thread on the bobbin by pressing the knee control lever until the core of the bobbin is covered securing your starting point. Stop and trim the loose end of thread up against the bobbin, then restart winding until it stops automatically when full, while keeping light tension onto your thread spool at the back (use the curved handle of your scissors into the top of the spoool) so it maintains even tension on the thread as it comes off. Watch the bobbin and give the thread a nudge with your finger if it starts to fill too much in the middle, you want a nice even wind top middle and bottom. When bobbin is fully wound, remove it and swing the bobbin winder spindle to the side. Then tighten up clutch again by holding flywheel and turning inner coupling wheel away from you until it is firm.

Open the bobbin cover flap, drop the bobbin in with the holes on top. Hold the thread tail and move it clockwise around the bobbin case until it goes into the little groove - press down on the thread while holding the bobbin still with a finger, you will hear the thread click into the tension spring. Try again if this doesn't happen, you must get it into the tension. You can test by lifting the thread vertically, it will come out again if not in the spring.
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Now, top thread. Turn the flywheel toward you until thread take up lever is in its highest position and raise the pressure foot. Place the thread spool on a spool pin so that the thread unwinds itself from the side nearest the machine. Pas the thread from below throu the thread guide then throu one of the two openings of the upper thread tension, thread from left to right, through the hole of the thread take up lever, then pas it from behind through the two thread guides at the lower front of the head. Then thread the needle from front to back. Use the top thread to draw up the bobbin thread by holding the top thread and turning the flywheel towards you through one sequence so the hook catches the upper thread, then pull the top thread to draw up the bobbin thread to the top. Close the bobbin cov er plate, draw both threads to the back of the sewing platform and you're ready to sew.

You need to oil this vintage machine and there should be marked red points inside the head cover and on the side of the bobbin case denoting where.

I would suggest that you join the Yahoo group called Elna Heirlooms; you'll find some useful information there and very helpful members who maintain their Elnas like your model.

Oct 19, 2011 | Elna 2007 Mechanical Sewing Machine

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My elna sewing machine bobbin won't spin on top to wind thread around. The fly wheel spins though...I've been putting thread on the bobbins by hand.


If the fly wheel is going around then the clutch isn't disengaged to wind the bobbin, you need to pull out the flywheel on your model to disengage the clutch for bobbin winding.

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Take thread from thread spool across to bobbin winder thread guide, then back to bobbin and thread the tail through the hole on top of the bobbin. Place bobbin onto spindle on top of machine and then push it against the stop to engage the bobbin winding motor. HOld the thread tail up and start winding slowly until the bobbin core has been covered including the starting point. Stop and trim off the thread tail with scissors. COntinue winding bobbin and give the thread a nudge if needed to wind evening top middle and bottom of the bobbin. A good smooth wind is important. Also don't wind at full speed and keep an eye on the thread reel that the thread is coming off, you don't want it bouncing around as this will **** the thread and stretch then relax it affecting your bobbin wind.

Obviously if you know this and the bobbin winding mechanisim is just not working, then it will need a service/replacement by an Elna repair person.

Aug 01, 2011 | Elna 2007 Mechanical Sewing Machine

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The bobbin winds really loose and uneven and then gets caught up when I'm sewing. I've checked I'm threading it correctly when winding... seems to be worse with polyester and embroidery thread. Help!


You need to keep tension on the thread spool as you wind the bobbin to avoid this from happening. Also, is there a little tension device to take the thread around between the spool and the bobbin winder? Some machines have a little silver button tensioner purely for bobbin winding to keep the thread flowing smoothly.

But I always do the following anyway just to ensure a smooth bobbin. Take the thread from your spool, through the eyelet or tensioner, then back to the bobbin and put the tail end up through a hole in the top of the bobbin. Now put the bobbin onto the winder and click it against the stop. Place the curved handle of a pair of scissors onto the top of the thread spool and apply some gentle pressure to stop the spool from bouncing and jumping while winding off. Keep doing this through the winding process.

Start the bobbin winding mechanisim, its a button on my Janome 6500, yours might be a little different. HOLD the thread tail until you've got coverage over the whole bobbin area catching the starting point. Stop, trim the thread tail off top of the bobbin with scissors, then restart winding again. Watch as the thread winds and give it a nudge with your finger tip to the top or bottom so the bobbin winds evenly across the whole spool's width.

Best analogy here is when you wind the garden hose onto the reel, if it goes on all over the place you never get the whole length on neatly, but if you wind it on neatly in an even tight coil across the spool, then back again, then repeat, you get a tidy hose. But just wind madly, it all builds up in the middle, you can't get it all onto the reel, and it won't pull out nicely next time you need it. Same thing with your SM thread.

Polyester and silky embroidery threads will be worse too as they are silky, so if the thread hasn't been wound on smoothly and under tension, then it will "collapse" with gravity, then when you use the bobbin, the thread is going to be caught on itself, will feed unevenly and be stretched, then loose, giving you less than perfect stitch tension.

My other bobbin tip is store the bobbins in a plastic bobbin tray so they are lying on their edges and under a cover. Keeps them neater and they are less likely to unwind stray threads around your sewing cabinet if you store them on the spool pins build onto the cabinet door - and it keeps the thread dust free. But I do not keep thread on bobbins for long, prefer to wind a fresh one off a new spool when I start a project and can usually complete a garment with a 3/4 filled bobbin, use the remaining few metres for handsewing, then junk the rest. Then I put the thread spool that is left back into a sealed takeway container to keep it away from UV, dust and moisture.

I hope this assists you with your machine and certainly if this doesn't resolve the bobbin issues, then I'd suggest you visit your dealer and ask them to demonstrate the technique on your machine to see if there is a technical issue with it.

Apr 10, 2011 | Elna Xplore 8600 Computerized Sewing...

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HOW TO THREAD THE BOBBIN


Take the thread-end from the thread spool to the left, around the bottom of the "silver" "button"; across the top of the button and back to the right to the bobbin winder.

Run the thread-end through a hole in the side of the bobbin spool, hold onto the thread (pull through about 5" of thread) and place the bobbin spool onto the the bobbin winding pin.

You may have to turn a bit to the left or right to get the spool in place. Push the bobbin spool to the right; against the bobbin winding wheel.

Press on the power pedal - keeping hold of the thread-end.

As the bobbin fills, the thead end will twist.

When you can not longer hold on. Stop the machine and clip the thread end then continue to wind the bobbin.

You can view and download a manual here (free) - http://www.brother-usa.com/manuals/default.aspx?PGID=3&R3ModelID=XL2230

Mar 25, 2010 | Brother XL-2230 Mechanical Sewing Machine

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After following instructions on winding the bobbin for the fast bobbin winding system, the bobbin is not threading


If the bobbin spool is spinning, it will thread.

Take the end of the thread through one of the little holes in the side of the bobbin spool and pull out about 8" of thread. Hold onto it as the bobbin begins to spin.

After the thread has wound 5 - 6 turns, stop the machine and cut off the thread end. Continue the winding process.

Mar 14, 2010 | Brother CS-6000

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I was doing fine zigzag, ran out of bobbin thread did not change any thing and now the thread bunches on the bottom and the machine does not advance. Bobbin casing pop up also this is a 774 model


Hi there,

Well The most probable cause of the lower thread breaking is an improperly wound bobbin. Regardless of where you wind the bobbin, inside the machine, on the top of the hand wheel or on the front side near the hand wheel, the basic "bobbin" rules apply. 

** Always start with an empty bobbin. Never wind one color over another color.
** Don't wind the bobbin so full that it would be tight and hard to insert into the bobbin case. Most machines have an automatic "shut off" when the bobbin gets full, but if yours does not, be careful not to fill it too full.
** Wind the bobbin evenly across and in level layers.
** Never mix different sizes of thread in the bobbin and on the spool, unless you're doing sewing machine embroidery or some specialty type of sewing. Using different weights of thread on the spool and in the bobbin for general sewing will cause ragged stitches as well as other stitching problems.
So clean all the threads and do it work from start.........
Please reply ......
Thanks

Dec 29, 2009 | Singer Sewing Machines

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Singer 750 how to rewind the bobbing?


1. Push in indent (illustration 1) on hand wheel disc. This will stop the needle from moving.
2. Place spool of thread on spool pin.
3. Slide spool pin holder/cap (illustration 2) firmly over rim of spool to prevent thread from tangling.

1. Push in indent (illustration 1) on hand wheel disc. This will stop the needle from moving.
2. Place spool of thread on spool pin.
3. Slide spool pin holder/cap (illustration 2) firmly over rim of spool to prevent thread from tangling.

4. Lead thread passing it first through the lower slot of the thread guide. Next through the upper slot, leading the thread to the right and around (illustration 3).
5. Wind thread clockwise around front of bobbin winder tension disc (illustration 4).
7. Pass thread end, from inside, through small hole in rim of bobbin.
8. Holding thread end, step on speed controller to run machine until desired amount of thread is wound. (Winding stops automatically once bobbin is full.)
9. Cut thread; push bobbin to the left and remove it from bobbin winder pin.
10. Trim thread end from top of bobbin.
11. Press the bobbin winding indent on hand wheel to its original position. If necessary, turn hand wheel to engage needle movement.


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Feb 09, 2009 | Sewing Machines

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