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My needle slides behind the lower looper instead of in front to pick up the stitch. Why won't it stay in front of the looper?

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This is a timing issue and for an overlocker, really beyond the scope of anyone not trained or familiar, it is a 3D ballet between the loopers and needles and needs to be finely balanced to exacting tolerances I'm afraid to say.........the cost of replacement of each looper is around the price of a service......so..... Strongly recommend you to take it to a service centre for adjustments.......you will break more than a needle if you persist.

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I would suggest that you check the needles again, make sure they are both fully up into the needle housing. Also they should be at different heights in order to form the stitch sequence.

It is important that you thread the loopers first in the sequence shown in your manual, then the needles. So you may need to recheck the threading again and make sure the threads are in all the eyes correctly, especially the lower looper. Also some overlockers, have a sliding eye on the lower looper for ease of threading, if yours does, make sure it has been slid back to normal operating position.

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I don't know your babylock well, some of these have automatic tensions and electronic stitch selection. But a rolled hem is achieved on any overlocker in the following way; the actual dials and knobs might vary a bit.

Firstly there is a stitch finger that you need to change or retract so that the thread can roll the fabric rather than staying flat. For a normal seam this finger sticks out in the area where the loopers and needle form the stitch holding the cut edge flat until the seam is made over it. But for rolled hems you want to retract this finger so it does roll.

On the Bernettes this is a little lever in front of the stitching area that you pull back to retract the finger. Have a look around where the stitch forms and you should see the finger. Some machines, its a part you change on the needle plate with a screw driver, or just move a switch or lever.

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Now test stitch on your fabric, and finess the upper and lower looper tensions until you get the lower looper thread almost not showing, it should be right up against the needle on the underside with the upper looper thread completely wrapping around top and bottom, pulling the fabric under.a seam like this.
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Test stitch and adjust upper and lower looper until this is happening.

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Because of the stitch density this uses thread so do the finessing first, then turn the length down.

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Important! When threading the needle, always be sure to lift the presser foot lever, and also take care to thread in the proper order.

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5. Left needle thread or double chain needle thread (yellow)

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Repeat 1, 2, 3.
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Caution:
When returning the lower looper threading lever, always make sure that the two
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Right needle thread (red)
Left needle thread (yellow)
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First raise the presser foot lever, and then thread the needle threads in order shown in color coded thread guide.




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My description isn't too detailed but I hope it helps!

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Sounds like the timing is a little out.

If you remove the needle plate and turn the handwheel manually watch for the lower looper as it swings behind the Left needle....the needles ought to rise by only about 2mm before the looper passes......the looper must pass the needle above the eye to catch the thread, and be so close as to be barely touching the rear of the needles......if the left needle thread is not picked up, it may be the timing, or the distance between needle and looper.

For the uninitiated, there are a myriad of variables in correctly timing an overlocker (serger), and without the manual to refer to the correct parameters, you will rapidly descend down a road of despair....if you move a looper to advance or ****** the timing, you risk looper collision and a broken looper is almost as much as a service, so my advice is do the test to see if the timing is the likely culprit, and if so, take the opportunity to give the old girl a treat.

If you need to save for a while to do it, just use the 3 thread option for the time being.

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