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Anonymous Posted on Aug 25, 2009

Can you use 8-pin phone wire for ethernet connections?

Hi everyone:

At my workplace we have some 8-pin phone wire (its a thin flat wire w/ an RJ45 end on it). It seens to be for telephones. It has the same colors on each end of the wire. There are no markings on the wire to tell if its CAT5 or what-not. The colors of the wires are (in order from right to left with the metal pins facing up and away from you):

White / Orange / Black / Red / Green / Yellow / Blue / Brown.

Any ideas would be great!

  • Anonymous Aug 25, 2009

    Why does it need to be twisted? Shouldn't a wire just work if it had the right ends and the right wiring layout. If for example:

    White/Orange = White
    Orange = Orange
    White/Green = Black
    Blue = Red
    White/Blue = Green
    Green = Yellow
    White/Brown = Blue
    Brown = Brown

    Shouldn't the power still travel through if they are the same layout?

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No. You can't use that for ethernet. Ethernet needs twisted pairs of wires, and if your cable is flat then it isn't twisted.

Hope that helps,
Matt

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I have a (like) phone chord and can't find where to put the other end. We have it plugged into the back of the router, need to know where to plug the other end.

Hi

It depends on which country you are in.

It depends what Broadband wiring setup you have.

It depends which type of cable you are talking about (see images 1 and 2 below)

In some countries, the RJ11 to RJ11 cable goes from this device into the phone Socket of an ADSL filter. One RJ45 to RJ45 cable goes from the Router into the Ethernet Socket of the ADSL Filter. Another RJ45 to RJ45 cable goes from the Router to the Computer. The ADSL Filter then goes into the Phone socket in the wall.

You need an ADSL Filter in every Phone Socket that has a telecommunications device attached to it (Fax Machines, Answering Machines, TV Set Top Boxes, games Consoles etc.). The ADSL filter separates Telehone, Voice & Fax Data traffic from Broadband traffic and allows all to share the same phone line with out conflict.

See Network Diagram below.

In some countiries or wiring setups, the RJ45 to RJ45 cable form the Router to the Wall does not need to go via the Phone Socket and can go directly into its own dedicated Ethernet Wall Socket.

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IMAGE 1: RJ11 to RJ11 or ADSL MODEM or BROADBAND or TELECOMS or TELEPHONE Cable




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virtual_a_4.jpgIMAGE 2: RJ45 to RJ45 or CAT5E or LAN or ETHERNET Cable


DIAGRAM 1: Typical UK Home Broadband Network Diagram
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I only want to know the meaning of the different colours of cables that are used in crossover cables?

the standard colours for CAT5(e) or CAT6 ethernet cable are:

green, green stripe
blue, blue stripe
orange, orang stripe
brown, brown stripe

the typical setup for an ethernet connection in an RJ45 (the crystal end with the connection tab towards you) is

1 green stripe gclosen.jpg
2 green
3 orange stripe
4 blue
5 blue stripe
6 orange
7 brown stripe
8 brown

Wires 1 & 2 are used to transmit data from the PC to the router/modem (TX) and wires 3 & 6 are used to recieve information from the modem/router (RX). in this fasion, information flows along one pair or another and is expected to arrive at that pinout. the router/hub/modem takes care of the transition to the next cable or out to the internet.

In a crossover cable ONE end is configured as above, but the colours for wires 1, 2, 3, and 6 are exchanged so that when no hardware is between the two PCs/components the signal is transmited at wire 1 & 2 and recieved on pins 3 & 6 on the other system/component. the other colours are placed for backward compatibilitiy and other applications, such as power over ethernet.



following the standard above allows anybody familiar with RJ45 connections repair a connection with a standard colour code and pattern without having to see the other end. If you know you need to replace one end of a patch cable, you use the standard termination.




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Cat5e Single Socket RJ45 Ethernet Network Face Plate

My preference is to use the T-568b if there is not already a standard where you are doing the installation at. The A and B are just different standards to terminate an ethernet cable.
TIA/EIA-568-A, T-568B RJ45 Wiring Standards

To answer your question..If you want a straight through connection you would use T-568B (or T-568A) at both ends of the cable.

T-568B T-568A
-------------------------- ------------------------
Pin Color Pin Name Color Pin Name
--- ------------- -------- ------------- --------
1 Orange Stripe Tx+ Green Stripe Rx+
2 Orange Tx- Green Rx-
3 Green Stripe Rx+ Orange Stripe Tx+
4 Blue Not Used Blue Not Used
5 Blue Stripe Not Used Blue Stripe Not Used
6 Green Rx- Orange Tx-
7 Brown Stripe Not Used Brown Stripe Not Used
8 Brown Not Used Brown Not Used

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I am trying to connect the ethernet cable to a philips RJ45 wall

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http://www.incentre.net/content/view/75/2/
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Network & Telephone Cabling

Sure you can,

But.... what are you going to use it for? if to connect 1pc to another there will be no connection, as for a telephone line only have 4 lines and the RJ45 connection to PC uses 8
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Ethernet cable end repair

Unless you have a RJ45 crimping tool you are stuck with having to ask someone who does have one to borrow it, honestly if you know someone with a crimping tool then ask them to perform the repair.
If however you have the tool for a straight through cable (most common)
Holding the plug upside down (catch towards the floor) and the pins furthest away from you I use the following layout;

orange white (furthest left hand side)
orange
green white
blue
blue white
green
brown brown white (furthest right hand side)

slide the cables into the plug held in the position describe above, then check the order of each wire once more using the crimping tool to "crimp the new RJ45 connection in place.

Basically as long as you hold the rj45 connector in the same position the wires should go into the same corresponding position at each end.
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Rj45 male to db9 male cable for ups

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APC Part# - 940-0128A computer --------- Inside the Connector--------- UPS DB9-F | | RJ45 pin - signal | | Pin - Color | | 4 DSR ->|---+ | | | diode resistor | 6 DTR ->|---+---->|----///---o kill power | 8 Orange | | 1 DCD <-|----+ | | | | 2 RxD <-|----+----------------+--o low battery| 3 Brown | | | 7 RTS ->|----------+--///--+ | | | | | +--///--+ | | | | 8 RI <-|----+----------------+--o on battery | 2 Black | | | 9 CTS <-|----+ | | signal | 5 GND --|-----------------------o ground | 7 Red | | 3 TxD | | | chassis | Chassis/GND |-----------------------o ground | 4 Black | | | Not connected | 1, 5, 6, 9, 10 --------------------------------------
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Ethernet cable

568-B Wiring
Pair Wires RJ-45 pins
1-White/Blue White/Blue 5
Blue/White 4
2-Wht./Orange White/Orange 1
Orange White 2
3-White/Green White/Green 3
Green/White 6
4-White/Brown White/Brown 7
Brown/White 8
568-A Wiring
1-White/Blue White/Blue 5
Blue/White 4
2-White/Green White/Green 1
Green/White 2
3-White/Orange White/Orange 3
Orange/White 6
4-White/Brown White/Brown 7
Brown/White 8
RJ-45 Pins are with the spring tab down and read left to right. Do you have an RJ-45 Crimping tool?
Just use 568-B or 568-A on both ends of the same cable.
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