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Anonymous Posted on Aug 15, 2009

Warm in freezer and refrig

We had a service guy come out today. He charged us $60+tax to tell us that we needed a defrost thermostat and another $189 to install the new one with the $60 call fee included. After he showed us where to install, I called an parts place and replace the thermostat myself for &20+tax. Well, that didn't solve the problem. The cold air from the freezer is not blowing into the refrig. Is there a fan in the freezer area? The only fan i hear is the one running in the back of the unit. I cannot hear the compesor---i don't know what to listen for. I did turn the cold control knob all the way to COLD. I didn't hear anything on the refrig side of the temp control knob but i did hear one click coming from the freezer side once of the freezer temp control knob. When i did the same thing over i didn't hear the click. How do i tell if the compessor is not working?

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On some Amana refrigs , the defrost thermostat has to close before the fan will come on . The coils will get cold and since the bimetal clips onto the coils , it will get cold as they do . When cold enough , bimetal closes and the fan will come on . Are the coils getting cold ? If so , then the compressor is working . You could also have a bad fan motor instead of bimetal . Recheck to see if you hear the fan in freezer now .

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4. Turn the thermostat on for 5 seconds.
5. Turn the thermostat off for 15 seconds.
6. Turn the thermostat on for 5 seconds.
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