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Washer is squealing when agitating & smells like it's overheating

I changed the drive coupler in our Whirlpool Direct-Drive Washer (model LA7780XSW2) tonight. That fixed the agitating and spin problem we were having. Now when it agitates it sqeals and it smells like something is over-heating. Any suggestions?

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Washer fills with water as usual then it will try to agitate and spin at same time.


WASHER SPINS AND AGITATES AT SAME TIME:

( Belt drive) I SUSPECT YOU HAVE A BAD TRANSMISSION SPRING ITS NOT THAT EXPENSIVE OR DIFFICULT TO FIX. YOU CAN INSPECT IT BY TURNING MACHINE ON ITS SIDE AND LOOKING AT THE TRANSMISSION SPINDLE, SHOULD BE LOCATED UNDER THE PULLEY WHEELS AND MOTOR ( ON BELT DRIVE MODELS). U WILL NOTICE A SPRING ABOUT 2-3 INCHES LONG GOING AROUND THE SPINDLE IT SHOULD ALL BE ONE PIECE IF IYTS BROKEN OR CRACKED ETC IT NEEDS REPLACING. -

Another thing to Check is the wig/wag solenoid also in some models. The cam shaft may have slid and broken away from wig wag solenoid

( Direct drive) a simple way of determining with spin or agitate problem is with your washer's transmission (also called a gearcase) or some other part like a clutch or a drive motor coupler. And usually the problem is in the transmission itself in direct drive models. When it comes to spin and agitate at same time.

your next step is toremove the cabinetand jumper the lid switch harness (tan to gray). Put the unit in spin and watch the shiny metal clutch disc that is on top of the transmission where the shaft comes out. If the machine starts and runs in spin, check to see if the disc is spinning. If it is, then the problem isnot in the gearcase- look for trouble in theclutch(see the "Clutch" section below),basket driveor thetub drive block(see the "Drive Block" section below).
If, on the other hand, the disc is NOT spinning, check for a problem withthe motor drive coupleror one of its retainers. This washer doesn't have a belt. Instead, the motor is directly coupled to the gearcase by a drive coupler; that's why it's called a direct drive washer. BTW, replacing the motor coupler is probably the single most common repair on this washer.

Read more:Diagnosing and Repairing Spin and Agitate Problems in a Whirlpool / Kenmore Direct Drive Washerhttp://fixitnow.com/wp/2010/07/07/diagnosing-and-repairing-spin-and-agitate-problems-in-a-whirlpool-kenmore-direct-drive-washer/#ixzz3XW7eZwiNBy the way my advice is free cuz God is good!

Apr 13, 2017 | Washing Machines

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I have a Kenmore 80 series top load, direct drive washer. It will fill with h2o but will not agitate or spin. I had changed the moter coupler prior to this new problem and I rechecked it and it looks fine....


First, see the Sears parts site for your washer:

http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/index.action

Enter your model number (###.######) and you'll see a list of major sub-components with diagrams and parts.

Next, see the whirlpool / kenmore Service Manual for top load, direct drive washers:

https://secured.whirlpool.com/Service/SrvTechAdm.nsf/2cd44500d572193285256a45004fd9d6/f7e2147fa98b28cf85257122007475cb/$FILE/L-55.pdf


I'd first pull the cabinet and completely remove the motor coupler, check that the holes in the center rubber piece are intact and then replace it.

If the holes in the center piece and the prongs from the plastic pieces aren't ligned up correctly when re-installing it, you can strip the center unit. It would look fine from a glance but wouldn't be able to drive the gearcase.

Since you CAN hear the motor, the problem does point to the coupler:

Also see the following for a detailed description of how to replaced it.

http://www.american-appliance.com/catalog/newsdesk_info.php?newsPath=16&newsdesk_id=135&osCsid=0da65cea0e338fe930b1fde153a243f0

Feb 16, 2011 | Washing Machines

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Washing machine clicking when agitating, but it won't agitate


This assumes that you have a basic Kenmore / Whirlpool top load, direct drive, neutral drain (it doesn't spin until the pump removes most of the water) machine.

First, see the Sears parts site for your washer:
http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/index.action

Enter your model number (###.#######) and you'll see a list of major sub-components with diagrams and parts.

Assuming that it also won't spin, the most likely reason is the Motor Coupler.

This is a device that transmits power from the motor to the transmission. It consists of three parts.
Two of them are plastic devices with prongs that fit into a center rubber coupler. If the coupler is damaged, you may be hearing the plastic prongs hitting each other making a "clicking" noise and no power is getting to the transmission . See the following for how to access the coupler and check / replace it.

http://www.american-appliance.com/catalog/newsdesk_info.php?newsPath=16&newsdesk_id=135&osCsid=3bc29e1d1c23c909301776946bde8680

Also see the following Whirlpool / Kenmore service manual for top load, direct drive washers.

https://secured.whirlpool.com/Service/SrvTechAdm.nsf/2cd44500d572193285256a45004fd9d6/f7e2147fa98b28cf85257122007475cb/$FILE/L-55.pdf

Mar 13, 2010 | Kenmore 23822 Top Load Washer

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Kenmore washer 110 makes grinding noice only at first of spin cycle. is it the clutch?


This assumes that you have a basic Kenmore / Whirlpool top load, direct drive, neutral drain (it doesn't spin until the pump removes most of the water) machine.

First, see the Sears parts site for your washer:
http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/index.action

Enter your model number (###.#######) and you'll see a list of major sub-components with diagrams and parts.

In order of difficulty, there are three possibilities.

1. It's possible that the Motor Coupler is worn / broken.

This is a three part plastic and rubber device that transmits power from the motor to the transmission. If it's worn and slipping you may hear the plastic pieces grinding against each other.

It's an easy repair.

See the following:

http://www.american-appliance.com/catalog/newsdesk_info.php?newsPath=16&newsdesk_id=135&osCsid=2e8e02b3755ab86d8e046bc88e9db27b

If the Coupler is worn, it's an easy and inexpensive fix.

2. It may be the clutch bands have worn.

See the following for how to remove the pump, motor and transmission. The clutch is on top of the transmission. Sears has replacement clutch bands.

http://www.american-appliance.com/catalog/newsdesk_info.php?newsPath=16&newsdesk_id=137

You don't have to remove the drive tube and brake to change clutch bands.

If it isn't the motor coupler or clutch, it could be the "agitate cams" in the transmission.

These are plastic pieces that move the agitator drive shaft up about 1/4" when the washer goes into the spin cycle. If they are worn, you may hear a grinding noise.

Also see the Whirlpool / Kenmore service manual for top load direct drive washers.

https://secured.whirlpool.com/Service/SrvTechAdm.nsf/2cd44500d572193285256a45004fd9d6/f7e2147fa98b28cf85257122007475cb/$FILE/L-55.pdf

See also a more detailed description from Whirlpool of how their transmissions work.

https://secured.whirlpool.com/Service/SrvTechAdm.nsf/2cd44500d572193285256a45004fd9d6/2550f737b3129b0c85256b0600504738/$FILE/787772%20%234.pdf

Remove the cabinet, pump, motor and transmission. YOU DON'T HAVE TO REMOVE THE AGITATORS OR TUB.

http://www.american-appliance.com/catalog/newsdesk_info.php?newsPath=16&newsdesk_id=137&osCsid=1051095663c7f2d5997fa53b976529d6

I had the same problem with major gear grinding during the spin cycle and this solved it.

The agitator cam and follower use the same whirlpool part number 62580/01. This is a plastic set used to raise the agitate gear on the shaft.

Pull the transmission.

Remove the clutch (the spring holding the clutch to the spin pinion is a bear to replace.

Remove the 8 transmission screws carefully, the transmission is full (15 oz.) of 80-90 weight gear oil.

Remove the transmission cover.

Pull off the spin pinion.

Push down on the agitate spring and remove the spring clip. Note where is attaches to the main shaft.

The two plastic agitate cam parts pull right off. Don't lose the washer on top of the cams.

Replace the cams, washer, spring and clip, pinion, oil (assuming you drained the oil first), cover and clutch parts.

Line up the transmission so that the release cam on the brake drum will snap onto the clutch spring retaining clip and put all parts back in the washer.

The basic tools are screwdriver, small socket set with up to a 1/2" socket, vice grips or good pliers (to remove and replace clips)

Be sure to align the holes on the Motor Coupler correctly or the motor and transmission won't fit together correctly.

Following is also the Whirlpool parts list for their commercial top load direct drive washers that has a better description of the cams and the Whirlpool part numbers.

https://secured.whirlpool.com/Service/SrvTechAdm.nsf/2cd44500d572193285256a45004fd9d6/2550f737b3129b0c85256b0600504738/$FILE/787772%20%234.pdf

It is a bit of a messy job but much ($10 vs $170 for a transmission) less than having a service person replace the transmission.

Be sure to study the Service manual so that you can see exactly how the cams work.Also see the Whirlpool / Kenmore service manual for top load direct drive washers.


Mar 12, 2010 | Kenmore 15864/15862 Top Load Washer

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Motor overheating after replacing the direct drive coupler


Yes, what has happened is that the coupler has not been fully seated on the gearbox shaft, the motor shaft, or both. you should use a socket and hammer to firmly seat the plastic coupling on each shaft. If the coupling is not properly seated, the washer will work, you will get rotation, but there will be constant back pressure on the motor shaft, pushing it against the rear bearing race and the pump at the rear, the added friction causes heat buildup in the motor and eventual overtemp switch operation. Just solved this tricky problem myself. another clue that the coupler isn't fully flush and seated is the last motor retention strap is very difficult to get on, due to the 1/8-1/4 inch extra length.

Mar 01, 2010 | Whirlpool Washing Machines

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Washer will not spin or agitate. Pump works.


This assumes that you have a basic Kenmore / Whirlpool top load, direct drive, neutral drain (it doesn't spin until the pump removes most of the water) machine.

First, see the Sears parts site for your washer:
http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/index.action

Enter your model number (###.######) and you'll see a list of major sub-components with diagrams and parts.

First, see the following Whirlpool Kenmore installation and service manual for top load, direct drive washers.

https://secured.whirlpool.com/Service/SrvTechAdm.nsf/2cd44500d572193285256a45004fd9d6/f7e2147fa98b28cf85257122007475cb/$FILE/L-55.pdf

If it drains and you can hear the motor trying to turn the transmission for the agitate mode, the obvious first answer is the Motor coupler. I'd replace it just to be sure.

If it's not the Coupler, the problem points to the transmission itself.

There are only two components of the gearcase that are used for both agitating and spinning.

One is the Agitator shaft which drives the agitator and holds the spin pinion that drives the clutch for spinning.

The other is the main "Bottom and pinion gearcase" itself.

Please see the following Whirlpool parts list for commercial top load direct drive washers although the consumer models use the same transmission parts.

http://shared.whirlpoolcorp.com/assets/pdfs/literature/Repair%20Part%20List%20-%20W10114743.pdf




Oct 24, 2009 | Kenmore Washing Machines

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Whirlpool direct drive top loader will not spin


Hi, Is the humming noise coming from the timer area? Do you know if it agitates ok?
When you have it in spin cycle, Try lifting the lid and see if the hum stops.
The reason for these questions is that on this model, if it drains the water out but does not spin, it is either lid switch, coupler, or transmission.
If it's the coupler, it will not agitate either.
Please let me know so I can assist you further.

Thanks
Vic

May 30, 2009 | Whirlpool LSR8433K Top Load Washer

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I have an older model Kenmore washer - stopped spinning and aggitating - I took the control panel off, how do I reach the belt?


Your problem may not be a belt some Whirlpool built Kenmore washers are direct drive and have a coupler instead of a belt. The coupler is located on top of the motor. It consists of three parts two with prongs and one with holes for each of the prongs. If this is broken or badly worn the washer will not agitate or spin. Good luck. Oh the drive coupler part number is 285753A.

Jan 08, 2009 | Washing Machines

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Whirlpool washer spin cycle noise


Likely you need either an agitator repair kit or need to replace the direct drive clutch assembly. The drive coupler is a fail-safe device and generally fails for a reason. In order to repair the agitator, you will need to acquire an agitator hub nut wrench.

Feb 18, 2008 | Washing Machines

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