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What direction should the ceramic portion of the bearing be facing, the impeller or the motor?

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Impeller to protect the motor and stop the lube coming out.

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I have Magnum 1000 pool pump, I dessemble it but now I dont now how to install the eye seal (which side should face to the impeller)? Thanks


The seal will always run with the two ceramic sided against each other. The seal with the white ceramic will go in the rear seal plate, and the half with the black ceramic will go on the impeller with the black ceramic side facing the white ceramic in the seal plate.

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Remove motar from whisper flo pump


Replacing your pool pump motor
Gather the following items.
Phillips and flat head screwdrivers
Circuit tester
Dry towel
Step One
First, make sure that the power to the pump is turned OFF. This means turning off the breaker at the panel box and not just the switch at the pump.
Step Two - Removing the motor assembly
Remove the four hex head bolts which hold the motor assembly to the pump/strainer housing (These bolts may not be visible).
Slide the motor assembly out of the pump/strainer housing, exposing the diffuser. Pull the diffuser of of the seal plate, exposing the impeller. (The diffuser may remain in the pump/strainer housing. To remove, pull it straight out of the strainer housing.)
There will be a gasket or O-ring sealing between the motor mounting bracket and the strainer housing. Inspect this thoroughly and replace if necessary. An economical option would be to purchase a Go-Kit which includes the pump shaft seal and all necessary o-rings, gaskets and lubricant for your pump.
Step Three
Now, you can lift up the motor with bracket attached to get to the wiring more easily. There may be a bare copper ground wire attached to the outside of the motor that you will need to disconnect. Remove the cover plate on the back of the motor to get access to the wiring. You should have one green wire that is the ground wire and two other wires that are your leads. The lead wires should be black and white but could be any other color except green. Disconnect these wires (they may be attached to a screw, held down by a nut, or clipped on with a terminal clip).
Step Four
Next, you will need to disconnect the conduit (sleeve covering wires between motor and switch or junction box). This usually means unscrewing the compression nut that is screwed on the adaptor which is screwed to the motor. After unscrewing the conduit compression nut, you can pull out the wires from the motor. If you wish to reuse the adaptor, unscrew it from the motor.
Step Five
Now you must remove the impeller from the motor. Remove the volute covering the impeller if it is there. (Some are screwed on). You will need to go to the opposite end of the motor and pop off the plate covering the shaft. The shaft will either have a slot in it for a screw driver or is flattened to allow you to put an open end box wrench on it. This will allow you to unscrew the impeller. You will unscrew in the direction that is opposite to the direction that the veins point at the outside of the impeller. This is the same direction that the motor will rotate the impeller. This may look backwards but the water comes into the center of the impeller and rolls off the veins away from the impeller by centrifugal force. As you take the impeller off, be sure to note how the pump seal is positioned. We highly recommend replacing the pump seal with the purchase of a Go-Kit when replacing the motor.
Step Six
Now you can see the bolts that hold the motor mounting bracket to the motor. Unbolt these, separating the motor mounting bracket from the motor. You are ready to reverse the process to install the new motor.
Step Seven
Important Notes on Reassembly: DO NOT touch the ceramic faces of the seal; This may cause the seal to burn up and leak. Be sure to tighten the impeller completely. Be sure to wire the new motor for 110V or 220V depending on what you have. This may be a simple switch in the motor or you may need to use the wiring diagram on the motor to set for the proper voltage. (Black tracer means the white wire with a black line corkscrewing around it.) Be sure to put the volute back on, aligning properly. Be sure to reconnect the bare copper ground wire to the ground lug on the new motor. When tightening bolts, alternate tightening a few turns at a time to seat evenly or the pump may leak. Fill the strainer housing with water before starting the motor to prime system and prevent damage to seal and impeller.
More Helpful information on how to replace a pool motor
Shaft Seal installation
Clean and lubricate the impeller hub shaft and pump housing seal recess with a dilute solution of non-granulated liquid-type soap
Gently wipe the black, polished surface of the spring seal assembly with a clean, soft cotton cloth. Press the spring seal assembly onto the impeller hub with black polished surface facing away from impeller.
Gently wipe the polished face of the ceramic seat with a soft cotton cloth. Lubricate the O-ring on the ceramic seat and press it firmly and evenly into the recess of the seal plate with polished side facing out.
Place the seal plate onto the motor mounting bracket aligning the positioning lug and guide.
Replacing the impeller and diffuser
Slide the motor assembly, with the diffuser in place, into pump/strainer housing, being careful not to dislodge the diffuser.
Fasten assembly to housing using the four bolts. (Be sure housing gasket is in place.) Tighten alternately and evenly

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Winding noise with some water leaking from the motor seal. Water still flowing but sounds laborous.


The shaft seal more likely than not needs to be replaced. If your shaft seal has been leaking for any length of time, the bearings could be damaged and this should be replaced. The whisperflow uses a PS1000 shaft seal and is fairly easy to replace (most seals available online or at most swimming pool retail stores). It is best advised not to run the pump until you have had this inspected by a licensed pool technician or have changed out the seal.

1) Make sure breaker/power to pump is off. 2) Remove the six bolts holding the wet end to the seal plate. 3) Remove the diffuser to expose the impeller. 4) Remove the screw in the middle of the impeller by turning clockwise (left hand threads). 5) Remove the dust cap at the rear of the motor and use a wrench to hold the shaft while you remove the impeller by turning counterclockwise. 6) Once the impeller is off, remove the four bolts holding the seal plate to the motor. 7) Press the old seal out of the seal plate and clean it thoroughly. Remove the ceramic part of the seal from the impeller and clean it thoroughly as well. 8) Apply a thin coat of lube (I prefer Magic Lube or Lube Tube) to the seal plate and impeller where the new seal will go. 9) Remove the new PS1000 shaft seal from the box (being careful *NOT* to touch the ceramic or carbon face with your fingers), press the metal part into the seal plate carefully, try not to bend the metal and make sure its completely seated against the seal plate. 10) You can now install the seal plate back onto the motor and secure with four bolts. Press the ceramic part into the impeller, use cardboard or paper between your fingers and the ceramic face. 11) Once you have seated the seal into the impeller, hold the motor shaft and thread the impeller on until snug, then reinstall the stainless screw, remember it is left hand thread so you'll have to turn it counterclockwise. 12) Reinstall the diffuser over the impeller and then install the wet end onto the seal plate using the six bolts, don't overtighten them.
Check the pump for operation and you should be good to go!


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I have new impeller & seals for pb4-60 booster pump and need to know the orientation of ceramic/rubber seal should be inserted into impeller - rubber lip toward or away from threaded brass wijidigit?


Rubber toward the impeller,so when you screw the impeller back on the ceramic ant the graphite on the other half face each other. This is so the graphite wears smooth against the ceramic.

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How do you replace a seal on a Sta-Rite pool pump? How do you remove the old seal? Ceramic and graphite.


Replacing a shaft seal requires some good mechanical ability.
first, always make sure power is off at the breaker before you work.
You'll have to remove the band holding the wet end to the seal plate. Then remove the diffuser covering the impeller. Remove the cover on the back of the motor. You either need a 7/16 open end wrench or a armature tool to hold the motor shaft while you unthread the impeller (if the impeller has a screw in the middle, you will have to remove it by turning clockwise, left hand threads) counterclockwise. You can then pull the carbon part of the seal off of the impeller, make sure to remove all of it including the metal sleeve. You will then have to remove the seal plate and push the ceramic part out from the back. You can then clean and lube the seal plate and install the new ceramic part of the seal, try not to touch the ceramic with your hands if possible. You can then lightly lube the impeller shaft and slide the carbon part of the seal with the carbon facing toward the ceramic as you thread it on. If the seal plate had a copper heat sink, you can either replace it or use a different size seal. (I believe it's a PS-201) Re-install the seal plate, impeller (and screw if applicable) and diffuser. You should now be ready to mate the seal plate to the wet end. Make sure you fill the pump before you try starting it up, especially with a new (dry) seal.

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Impeller tightens on Aqua-Flo Series A brass pool pump


Thank you for posting your question here on Fixya.com.

There is no spacer. The impeller's internal nut and the shaft's shoulder set the spacing. The most likely problem is either the spring portion of the seal is not fully seated into the pump housing or the ceramic portion not fully seated into the impeller. You should also be sure you removed ALL of the old seal and parts. Many people leave the ceramic's boot in place and then the new seal seat will not seal properly.

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John

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I have Aquaflo XP2 3 HP pump. I have removed old seal and need to install new seal. I have 2 seals, one with a spring in it that goes next to the impeller and another that has a black end and a white end....


Thank you for posting your question here on Fixya.com.

The rotating assembly, with the spring, goes on the back of the impeller with the shiny carbon face away from the impeller. That face mates to the white ceramic face of the stationary portion. The rubber (black) boot seals the white ceramic into the pump housing. The cardboard 'ring' is provided to allow you to press in the stationary portion without touching it. You DO NOT want to touch either seal face (The shiny parts that rub against each other once you are done). Doing so can cause a brand new seal to leak.

If this answer does not fix your problem, please comment with additional details prior to rating the answer. Positive feedback is appreciated once your problem is solved!

John

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1hp whisperflow pump, seal change. How?


Make sure breaker/power to pump is off. Remove the six bolts holding the wet end to the seal plate. Remove the diffuser to expose the impeller. Remove the screw in the middle of the impeller by turning clockwise (left hand threads). Remove the dust cap at the rear of the motor and use a wrench to hold the shaft while you remove the impeller by turning counterclockwise. Once the impeller is off, remove the four bolts holding the seal plate to the motor. Press the old seal out of the seal plate and clean it thoroughly. Remove the ceramic part of the seal from the impeller and clean it thoroughly as well. Apply a thin coat of lube to the seal plate and impeller where the new seal will go. Remove the new PS1000 shaft seal from the box (being careful not to touch the ceramic or carbon face with your fingers), press the metal part into the seal plate carefully, try not to bend the metal and make sure its completely seated against the seal plate. You can now install the seal plate back onto the motor and secure with four bolts. Press the ceramic part into the impeller, use cardboard or paper between your fingers and the ceramic face. Once you have seated the seal into the impeller, hold the motor shaft and thread the impeller on until snug, then reinstall the stainless screw, remember it is left hand thread so you'll have to turn it counterclockwise. Reinstall the diffuser over the impeller and then install the wet end onto the seal plate using the six bolts, don't overtighten them.

It is a good idea to replace the tank o-ring when taking to pump apart, but if the o-rings are in good condition, just apply a light coat of lube and reuse them.

This is a general guide for replacing a seal, if you have trouble removing the impeller, you may need an impeller wrench and a tool to hold the motor shaft.

I hope this helps, if you have any specific questions, email me at mail@leisurepoolservice.com

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Need to put in new bearing, it is really starting


Bearing on new motor failed for some reason, Make sure the new one will last, check that all shields and water deflecters are in place and that pump seal is not leaking. New motor bearings should be sealed but water has a bad habit of getting into anytging we try to keep dry.
I recomend replacement of pump seal whenever pump is opened and impeller is removed, cheep insurance. Take your time and make sure everything is clean as it goes back together, don't lubricate the pump seal faces, the ceramic faces are designed to be self lubricating and anything (even fingerprint oils) on them can cause a leak.

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