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I have a 30in. belt on my mulcher. It is supposed to be 29in. When I install it the mulcher tines turn without engaging it. Would the 1 in. longer belt cause this to happen?

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Its possable,one inch longer belt withouta belt adjustment is a huge amount of slack.

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