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I have a Elma 6003 the top stitch is working fine but bobbin is running straight line on bottom could be timing? Adjusted tension already

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If the bobbin thread is tight, then its tension needs to be loosened. It should be flexible enough that the top thread can pull the bobbin thread up halfway into the fabric. The ideal tension is when both top and bobbin threads meet in the middle of the fabric.

Posted on Aug 12, 2017

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Check your tension disks, with your presser foot up, and the tension dial on zero. Sometimes a piece of cotton breaks off between the tension disks and then prevents the disks to work properly. Also make sure when you thread the machine, the thread does go through the disks and over the take up lever. After you threaded the machine, before putting the thread through the eye of the needle, lower the presser foot and while pulling on the thread with your left hand, increase the tension with your right hand. Do it slowly and you should feel in difference in tension. If this is the case, your machine should work fine.

Posted on Nov 30, 2007

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SOURCE: bobbin tension

If the looping is happening on the underside, it is your top tension that is to blame, conversely looping on top is bobbin tension.........take a look HERE for detail on cleaning lint buildup.

Top tension should be set around the middle of the range, usually 4 - 6.

I would not advise playing with bobbin tensions, however, you can take the needle plate off to clean the hook race area (where bobbin case sits) ...this is good housekeeping, my wife does this every time she replaces the bobbin....just take it out and clean the bobbin case and the fixed metal hook race with a small brush to remove lint, if there appears to be fine dirty deposits, a cloth or cotton bud (Q tip) moistened (not soaked) with methylated spirit will do the trick.

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Posted on Jan 27, 2008

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SOURCE: bobbin tension

This is an issue of your upper thread tension, so take a look at this generic tension solution

If you are in a pickle with your bobbin case, check top tension and bobbin case are free of lint, reset the top tension to 4, and adjust the bobbin tension to suit......some more detail on how to do that, is here

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Posted on Jan 30, 2008

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SOURCE: euro-pro 464xc bottom tension loose

Welcome to FixYa!

Loose bottom stitches come from the top, not the bottom. Seems weird, but that's the way sewing machines work.

The dial tension should be set at the mid range and make absolutely sure that you have the machine threaded correctly. Both things will cause a sloppy bottom stitch.

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Posted on Feb 01, 2009

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SOURCE: janome straight stitch loose

I don't know if this is the right answer for any of you, but thought I'd put my 2 cents worth in. Often this can be the bobbin in backwards. It needs to unwind a certain way depending on the machine. I've heard a phrase for this: Mind your p's and q's which means some wind off to the right like a q, others to the left like a p. Mine has to unwind one way then be slipped backwards into a little slot or it does that loose bottom thread looping and bunching someone here mentioned. It seems everytime I get that problem I rethread the top thread 100 times before it clicks again and I remember it could be the bobbin thread. Either your manual will tell you the correct way, or you could experiment and try one or the other. Once you figure out whether you're a p or a q, mark it on your machien somewhere to remind yourself.

Good Luck and Happy Sewing!

Posted on Apr 04, 2009

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You need to tighten the bottom and top stitches both. First, tighten the bobbin slightly. Now, tighten the top stitches the same amount of pressure as the bobbin. The attempt is to have both the bottom and top stitches exactly the same so the final stitch ends up in the center of the fabric. Observe the stitch and readjust if necessary.

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How to adjust the bobbin tension.


According to the manual, you should not need to adjust the bobbin tension (and I located other sites which stated the bobbin tension cannot be adjusted on this machine). Apparently, all the tension adjustment is accomplished through the upper thread::
"EN Thread Tension Upper thread tension Basic thread tension setting: "4". (1) To increase the tension, turn the dial to the next number up. To reduce the tension, turn the dial to the next number down. A. Normal thread tension for straight stitch sewing. B. Thread tension too loose for straight stitch sewing. Turn dial to higher number. C. Thread tension too tight for straight stitch sewing. Turn dial to lower number. D. Normal thread tension for zig zag and decorative sewing. Correct thread tension is when a small amount of the upper thread appears on the bottom side of fabric. Lower thread tension The bobbin tension has been set correctly at the factory, so you do not need to adjust it. Please note: - Proper tension setting is important for strong seams. - There is no single tension setting appropriate for all stitch functions, thread or fabric. - A balanced tension (identical stitches both top and bottom) is usually only desirable for straight stitch construction sewing. - 90% of all sewing will be between "3" and "5". - For zig zag and decorative sewing stitch functions, thread tension should generally be less than for straight stitch sewing. - For all decorative sewing you will always obtain a nicer stitch and less fabric puckering when the upper thread appears on the bottom side of your fabric. 1 A B C 22 D"

Doing further research, I found this statement on a machine review site:
"After reading reviews online from where I've bought my drop-in bobbin machines, I think many of the negative reviews are due to the bobbin thread coming up without laying across the bobbin. It can cause the stitches to look very sloppy and no amount of tension adjusting can fix the stitches."

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Bottom thread is still loose even if i try to balance the tension, how do i balance the thread tension?


You bobbin tension CAN be adjusted. First, thread your machine with different colors in the top and bobbin, set your top tension at its default, and run a line of straight, and then a line of zigzag stitches, and compare the results at the top and bottom. You will be adjusting your bobbin to your top tension. If the top tension looks like a straight line instead of stitching and the zigzag looks like "chicken tracks" instead of a zigzag, but the bottom looks like a zigzag, your bobbin tension is too loose.

Remove the bobbin case, and locate the straight-slot screw. There are generally two; one is a Phillips and one is straight--you want the straight one. Leave the other alone.

The rule is "lefty-loosy, righty-tighty." If your stitching displays the above symptoms, it needs to be tightened, so turn 1/4 turn to the right--no more--then test again. You will need patience, but don't turn more than that. It is easy to do, but if you don't do it systematically, you can make things worse, and very slight adjustments can alter the stitching significantly.

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Why is the bottom stitch straight


Thread tension is a BALANCE between the top tension and the bottom tension. It appears that your bobbin tension is sightly tighter, causing the top thread to be pulled down. Run a zigzag stitch. If your top looks fine, but your bottom looks something like chicken footprint tracks, see if you can adjust your top tension a little tighter to compensate. If, in doing that the stitches are balanced but just too tight, you will need to adjust your bobbin tension SLIGHTLY looser. You will need a tiny screwdriver to do this. Take the case out and locate two screws on the side. Once is a Phillips--leave it alone. The other next to it is usually on the left of the Phillips, and, is a straight-blade screw. Lefty-loosey, righty-tighty. In your case, you want to adjust it a LITTLE looser to match the top tension--no more than 1/4 turn. Put it back and test it again; you should see some improvement. If it still needs a little adjusting, reinsert and repeat, but ONLY 1/4 turn at a time.

DON'T fool with it at all if you can compensate by tightening your top tension, and before you do anything, clean and oil your bobbin area with ONE drop and ONE only of sewing machine oil.ONLY. You might find that just cleaning and oiling will solve your problem right there.

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Your bobbin tension needs adjusting, and although it is not hard to do and doesn't require that you take the machine apart, you MUST do it systematically. If you don't, you'll make things worse.

First, download the user's manual from the Singer site if you don't have one. On page 20, you'll see a discussion regarding tensions, and what improper tension looks like. Tension is a balance between the top and bobbin.

Then, using scrap fabric, set your top tension on Auto and make sure your needle is all the way up in the clamp. Run a line of straight stitches, and next to it, run a line of zigzag stitches, maybe four inches, and examine it. The illustration on that page will show you what your straight stitches SHOULD look like. If your zigzag stitches show one side that looks like "chicken tracks" but the other side looks like it should, the chicken tracks side is too tight. In your case, if the bobbin is too loose, the top will look like chicken tracks. It helps a lot to use two different thread colors, as well as a third for the fabric.

To adjust the bobbin tension, you will need a tiny straight blade screwdriver. If you have an indication that the bobbin side stitches are too loose, take the bobbin case out of the machine and locate two screws on the side. One is a Phillips--don't touch it. The one on the left of the Phillips is a straight-slot screw--that's the one you want. The saying is "lefty loosey, righty tighty." If your test indicates the bobbin tension is indeed too loose (which can happen over time), you need to tighten it by turning the screw 1/4 (ONLY) turn to the right (righty-tighty). Test again. You should see at least some improvement to indicate you're on the right track, and repeat--turning ONLY 1/4 turn--until your top and bottom tension are balanced. Don't forget to also test with a zigzag; I have adjusted bobbin tensions in the past that looked OK on the straight stitch, but the zigzag indicated I wasn't quite there yet.

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whether its bias or straight does not matter to machine. loosen the bobbin tension and put more tension on take up spring by inserting a screwdriver in the slot of the top thread tensioner. turn to right.

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How to adjust tension on bottom stitch?


There are tow places where the thread tension is adjusted.

One is bobbin. This is not routinely adjusted. Just once and it is good for long time. This is done by turning the only screw on bobbin by about 1/4 turn or so at a time. Try several settings until you find he best.

the other place is the conventionally on body of the machine.

Tension of bottom stitch or top stitch are very confusing words. meaning difft things to difft pple.
All i can say is this. If u see bottom stitch run straight through loops of top thread. then either top tension is too loose or bottom too tight. and vise versa.

With top tension set to middle position adjust the bobbin to get correct stitch. Then later on all u need is to adjust only the top setting according to stitch and cloth


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March 12, 2009

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i have started using my machine again (after several years) and am doing patchwork.. all has been fine, and suddenly the bottom thread (bobbin) is looping. i've adjusted the tension nob from 4 (where i had it) to 5...back to 4.. 41/2....3 1/2....5 1/2... on and on and the bottom thread still keeps looping.
i've read and re-read the manual...and the only suggestion it gives is to adjust the tension button.
it's not working...... what else can i try??
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eva

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Because it is almost a straight stitch but the needle continues to move in a zig zag fashion is reason to believe it is in a long stitch. By changing the number of stitches per inch there will be a very noticeable looking zig zag stitch.

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