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1 Answer getting a speaker that has an 8 nominal load and 600W peak 400Wprogram and 200W RMS...two...what is RMS and what kind of amp do i need so that i dont get screwd over. thank you bunchesand also i need an amp thats under $250 to $300

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RMs is the average power (really basically) > You need to get an amp that is around 150W - 180 WRMS. You need to be really specific about the rms. Dont let guys tell you 1000 W peak etc. Peak is term that can often have several meanings, but true RMS is the norm standard for assesing proper power in pro gear. Whatever you find check out the specs for yourself in writing!!!
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"Peak" is 1/2 the value of "Peak to Peak" (P-P) and "RMS" which stands for Root Mean Squared, is 70.7% of Peak. 200W P-P sure sounds like it's more than 70W RMS - doesn't it? It's all pretty simple once you know. Lastly, the fictional unit "Music Power" can be anything really, but is often either Peak or P-P values. It's just more smoke and mirrors by some manufacturers.

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Hello dwayne93702,

I would suggest that you take this to your local auto-sound shop to have this done, however here is a procedure that has worked for me in the past. (It is tedious, but it allows you to develop an excellent chart showing relationship between frequency and power and helps you know the frequency limitations of your amp.

If you are trying to get the full range of power then I would suggest doing what is called a load test. For this you will need to use high wattage power loads (high wattage resistive loads 8 ohms) connect these in place of your speakers and sub-woofer put the amp at full power and inject a 1000 Hz tone and then with an oscilloscope adjust the sine wave to 0 distortion and measure the output voltage (Peak to Peak) and then do this calculation to get the RMS voltage:
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This will give you a good indication of the max power you can get without distorting the signal. I use 1K Hz because it is a reference tone. basically you can do this test on the whole audio frequency spectrum for a more in-depth measurement (building a power response graph).

I hope this helps,

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