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Elena Lotus SP Thread wraps around lower bobbin unit and get caught under the lower bobbin tension setting screw Causes jams

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  • cswilki Apr 29, 2017

    What is the timing? Needle is at bottom when cut out in bobbin case appears next to it. Needle then travels upward and the hole in the needle is just below the thread pickup. Is it out of time?

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SOURCE: a horrible tangle

This is a bit late, could the bobbin case not be seated properly? You need to put it into place and then turn it clockwise until it seats soundly in the opening. Also, check for burrs...the needle may have left a rough mark on the plastic or metal in the bobbin area. A piece of batting, or even an old knee hi should snag on any rough areas.

Posted on Jul 14, 2007

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SOURCE: Upper thread wraps around bobbin mechanism, while sewing

IT PROBABLY IS THREADED INCORRECTLY. GO SLOWLY BY THE DIAPHRAGM AND MAKE SURE IT IS THREADED CORRECTLY. ALSO MAKE SURE SPOOL PIN HOLDERS ARE IN PLACE THAT HELPS TO GUIDE THE THREAD CORRECTLY.

Posted on Sep 22, 2008

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SOURCE: Thread gets caught in the screw behind the thread take-up lever

dear,

it might be possible that screw pulled away due to the vibration as it became loose and after working the machinary it did like this.
so try after tighting it properly.

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Posted on Sep 25, 2008

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SOURCE: Singer CG 550 Top thread keeps wraping around the bobbin and jam

Have you checked the top thread is correctly placed in the spring of the bobbin case?

Posted on Feb 21, 2009

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SOURCE: Top thread keeps getting wrapped around bobbin case on LX-3125

my tread keep cutting

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How do you adjust the tension control on an Elna lotus SP


The tension dial is on the front of the machine right above the needle. The higher the number, the tighter the tension is applied to the top thread. HINT: When threading the top thread, ALWAYS RAISE the presser foot throughout the entire threading process. This allows the thread to seat completely in the tension disk. Tension is correct when the top and bobbin threads meet in the middle of the fabric.

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I have a elna lotus sp, it keeps bunching up underneith, ive had it working. I've changed the needle , it's starts sewing then stops due to it getting tangled ,


try another needle-- one for the fabric being sewed

make sure the top thread has not come off the thread take up lever

clean under the needle plate and in the bobbin area for lint


make sure the bobbin is inserted into the bobbin case correctly

make sure the bobbin is turned the correct way in the bobbin case

Mar 09, 2016 | Elna Sewing Machines

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How can I reinsert bobbin race back into my elna su 68?


Hey I can help you with this, its a long detailed explanation though. Have you removed the bobbin holden, ie,undone two small screws and lifted out the silver bobbin case, leaving a black round thing? This black bit is the lower ring guard, you have probably undone this to remove a thread caught in the edge of the bobbin case or umderneath. Elna manuals never detailed cleaning here but it is simple enough and needs doing from time to time, i have seen big wads of felted threads and lint under guard rings when pulling apart machines. This video shows how to line up the lower guard ring, the outer casing and the bobbin case.

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I always turn the flywheel until the opening of the lower casing is facing forward, then look at the black lower guard ring and turn it until the cut out bit is facing the front. Now look a the bobbin case, it has a couple of silver Beaks and these need to fit in between the stoppers on the outer case. You will know if lined up right as it just fits straight in, wiggle a bit left or right until its lined up. Those two silver screws have to marry up with the two holes in the lower guard ring.
Once aligned , tighten up the two screws until firm. There is a dark coloured screw too, leave it alone.

Hope,is helps, once youve done this a couple of times, its easy.

Sep 04, 2014 | Elna Sewing Machines

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I have a circa 1962 Elna and the thread keeps tangling under the pressure foot by the bobbin. I have rethreaded it twice as per instructions in the owners manual and still is happening, any suggestions?


if you are getting loops on the underside of the fabric or jamming around the bobbin, then your top thread is not under tension or going through the thread take up lever, that little arm that moves up and down. Recheck your threading path making sure you always raise the presser foot to open up the tension discs so that the thread lies into the tension discs fully. Also check that you have the bobbin threaded up correctly into the bobbin case, with the thread caught into the tension spring (you will hear a little click as it goes in). The bobbin will turn anticlockwise as you draw thread out of it. Use the top thread to raise the bottom thread up, replace the needle plate and bobbin case cover in place, then take both threads to the back of the sewing area. Hold them firmly as you start sewing! very important that you don't allow the thread tails to be caught and dragged into the bobbin as they will jam around the rotary hook.

May 05, 2014 | Elna Sewing Machines

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Thread from the bobbin is not getting looped


If the bobbin case rotates freely it is probable that the pinion gear is broken. Replace the gear, retime machine and voila it works again. Trouble is tough to find the gear anymore good luck it is a good machine and worth the effort

Jan 09, 2014 | Elna Sewing Machines

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I have a Brother sewing machine and whenever I try to pick up the bottom thread (or when I try to sew), the upper thread gets caught around the bobbin case causing a huge, knotted mess. It's just all...


Check your top tension dial setting is on 5, as this sounds like the thread is not in tension fully so is looping up around the rotary hook and not being held back by the tension device. Is the pressure foot lowered (this turns the tension on) fully and is the thread through the tension discs correctly. Lower the pressure foot and pull the top thread from below the tension dial, it should feel firm to pull, if it comes out easy, its not undertension, device could be faulty and machine will need to be serviced.

Also, check that the bobbin case is fully inserted into the rotary hook in the correct position, bobbin is in and rotating the right way and thread is into the tension spring fully.

If you have the manual pull it out, and carefully check the threading up instructions and follow on your machine - it is probably one of these things causing the jamming.

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Jams up when attempting to sew, making loud noise. Thread mass under fabric when able to cut loose from machine.


Thread jams underneath usually are caused by top thread tension issues. Things to check:
top tension discs are clean and no thread traces caught in there, tension is set to medium number usually 4 or 5 and that the top thread is running freely from the thread spool, correctly thread through the tension discs, and down to the needle. Lower the pressure foot and pull the thread from just above the needle; it should feel firm resistance if under tension correctly.

As you've had a good jam up, good idea to now remove the bobbin, needle plate and bobbin holder (refer to your manual if you have never done this before) and clean out the hook area well, look for any fine thread remants and brush out any lint etc. Oil the rotary hook area as per your manual. Now reassemble, and rethread everything again checking that the bobbin thread is clicked into the tension spring and that the top thread is through the tension discs correctly.

Also, pop in a new needle, flat shank to the back, then try again.

Good luck with your machine.

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How do I insert the bobbin into an Elna Lotus sewing machine (the old Lotus with flip sides)


Elna bobbins have holes on the top, so wind the bobbin with the holes on the top too. The Lotus bobbin winder doesn't have a tension device, thread just goes through an eyelet. So, place your scissors curved handle on top of your thread spool as it unwinds the thread to ensure the thread then winds onto your bobbin evenly. Also watch the bobbin fill and give the thread a nudge with your finger tip to fill top and bottom as well as the middle part, you want it to wind evenly across the full width of the bobbin. When full, pop bobbin winder back to left, cut thread and pull off the bobbin.

Then place the bobbin into the bobbin holder with the holes on top, and pull the loose thread tail around anti clockwise into the tension device and gently "click" it into the tension spring with the tip of your finger while holding the bobbin still with your other index finger.

You will be able to tell if it is in tension if you then pull the thread and it doesn't come out of the tension spring. It should feel firm with resistance but still release thread to a gentle pull. tally_girl_6.jpg Now thread the top down to the needle and holding the end of the needle thread, hand wind the fly wheel towards you to lower the needle and pull up the bobbin thread. Close the bobbin cover.

Always hold the two thread tails at the back of the sewing area as you start stitching a seam until you have stitched at least 4 or 5 stitches to avoid thread jams.

Lotus is a lovely vintage machine - there is a user group on Yahoo Elna heirlooms where you can find lots of info and pictures shared by members.

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Thread getting caught underneath


you need to replace your shukle that holds the tread bobbing below.it is either slack or broken . if it is slack then you tighten the little screw that holds a cover that gives the thread tension .if its broken then replace it.once the thread is slack below it will cause your thread to bundle up.

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