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I'm running the Wildcat VP880 Pro on an MSI K8N Neo 2 motherboard, with an Athlon 64 3500+ processor. I'm seeing system instability with random crashes especially, but not exclusively, when running SolidWorks 2006. System also rnadomly fails too boot. When this happens, and sometimes after a crash, my screen is filled with bands of multi-colored horizontal dashes. (More attractive than the Blue Screen of Death, but functionally equivalent.) Note: This is the second motherboard I've tried with this card. Thanks in advance; Ed Clow Wheeling, IL

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Unfortunately there has been a long history of issues with the Wildcat VP880 Pro cards, especially with their driver software. I worked on a network that included workstations running those cards and working with Solidworks. We struggled a long time with trying to make the systems stable as they exhibited some of the same issues you describe. We dialed back a lot of the details in the objects that people worked with. This went a long way towards better stability. We made sure to try out all updates to the drivers and patches, although we made sure to be able to roll the machines back if the new software caused more problems than they resolved. In the end the company rid themselves of the VP880 Pro cards as they felt that they had to dial back the resolution and other aspects of the Solidworks program so much to get any stability they felt it was too much of a trade off. You're already running AMD rather than Intel which is one of the other items that helped with the stability issue. We also found that boards that had the AMD Nforce chipset seemed to achieve more stability than a lot of the other boards we tested. Unfortunately all of my research as well as the research completed by the users themselves, never found a definitive fix/patch/trick/swap etc, that solved all of the problems. Hopefully at least some of this information will aid you in your quest.

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  • bvanjoff Jul 25, 2009

    As far as the cards go, whether or not they come with a fan is more of a manufacturing choice than anything else. There are many after market cooling kits available, with everything from better fans with pure copper heat-sinks and fins to water cooling, and even coolers that use the same pelletier junctions that the small fridge units use. Since you are planning on using your card to do some serious graphics work, I would definitely go with the best, which usually means the more expensive, card that you can afford. The more power you have, the more options you will be able to use with your Solidworks projects. When we were researching different cards to use on the workstations, we found that we could increase the productivity of the cards by as much as 80% by using the better cooling solutions. Both EVGA and BFG have good reputations when it comes to the quality of their products. Unless you are restricted by the abilities of your version of Solidworks, I would advise purchasing the newest card out of the group you have mentioned. As version numbers progressed, more and more pipelines, data bandwidth, pure speed, and memory access were added to the card. With the Geforce line of cards, sometimes the specially designated older model numbers actually did a better job than the newer model numbers. This is not the case with the 7300 GT and the 7600 GS. The 7300 GT was aimed more at the overclocking market allowing users to tweak the speed in a broader range. However the reality is that a card running at, for example, a true speed of clock/memory of 600/1400 is better than a 500/100 machine that has been overclocked to reach that speed.

    Overall I would recommend you go with the 7600 GS. If you do make that choice, try it out for awhile and then take a look at the aftermarket cooling items available. I believe you'll find the small investment pays off quickly. I hope this information will assist you in choosing your card.


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My money's on the bad power supply.

There is a way to bypass the Power On switch. Should you wish to know the procedure, state so in a comment.
(Believe upper right of page)

After you have made sure it isn't a bad Power On switch, check to make sure the 20-pin ATX motherboard power cable, is seated in the motherboard. TIGHT.

(Whitish see-through, long connector on motherboard.
Has 20 socket holes. 10 on each side.

Make sure the power cable is plugged in all the way, to this connector.
Make sure the lock on the side of the connector, is snapped in place.

(This one,

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REMEMBER, computer unplugged from power! TOUCH the metal frame of the computer case, BEFORE you reach inside the computer.
Relieves your body of Static electricity)

Next, Power Supply.

When you press the Power On button, you are pressing a Momentary Contact switch.
The Power On switch that is behind the Power On button.
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No contact.

When the switch makes contact for a brief second, a circuit is created. 5 Volts is sent through the motherboard, to the Power Supply.
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Power is sent to the motherboard. BIOS is the first program to be turned on.

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(Windows XP is an example of an O/S)

Not enough power to turn the Processor on.

Your power supply has a weak voltage power rail, or a failed voltage power rail.

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This card, I own one, is obsolete. Unless you find soneone who is planning to change from AGP to PCIe graphics, I don't think you will find one anywhere. 3dLabs sold the Wildcat line to Creative. Perhaps that route will profit you. I assume the usual searches have come a cropper. I would sell mine to you should I build my HTPC. It is a mite noisy for that purpose.

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