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Http://bluebookofgunvalues.com/Gun_Values/Gun_Manufacturer_Models.aspx?id=SMITH_WESSON_TOP_BREAKS

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I have a small frame 7 shot 22 Cal. break top H&R revolver. I was told my grandfather carried it in WWI. Serial# 371177. I would like to know the manufacture date and if it was an Army issue.


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Decoding H&R serial numbers is not easy and it takes up quite a bit of the H&R book as different models usually have seperate serial number series. gererally speaking there were three types of serial number series.
Pre 1905 (1904 and before) which were more like batch numbers and usually ran from 1 to 99,999. on some models there was a different series every year.
Post 1904 (1905 to 1939) one single series starting at 1 and going into the middle 6 digits (some third model auto-ejecting revolvers have been observed with number in the 800,000 range.
Ift here does not look like there are any markings on the left side of the barrel other than the caliber this would be the premier model fitted with extra cost oversize grips and 6 inch barrel. during the same time (1925-1934)frame H&R offered this revolver as the H&R TARGET (aka model 766) the only difference was H&R Target was marked on the barrel. by the time the premier model was fitted with a longer barrel and oversize grips the cost was about the same for the two models. the offering of the H&R Target model was just another way to try to sell more revolver. factory serial numbers are not available for this model so i believe this revolver was manufactured before the H&R Target was introduced in 1924 (most likely 1920 to 1923)
below is information of both models.

H&R PREMER SECOND MODEL SMALL FRAME TOP BREAK R.F. & C.F. ----------1905-1941
Small fame double action top break revolver with double top post barrel latch; calibers and cylinder capacity, 22 rimfire-7 rounds, 32 S&W, 5 rounds; automatic cylinder stop; standard finish Nickel with case harden hammer and barrel latch; standard barrel length 3 inches, with 2, 4, 5 and 6 inches available as optional; HAS CALIBER MARKINGS ON LEFT SIDE OF BARREL WAS MANUFACTURED FOR SMOKELESS POWDER CARTRIDGE PRESSURES.
There has not been enough data gathered on serial number to try to come up with a serial number range for the different variations.
First Variation, model name & caliber marked on left side of barrel, patent dates 5-14-89, 4-2-95, 4-7-96---------------1905-Only
Second Variation, model name & caliber marked on left side of barrel, patent dates 4-2-95, 4-7-96-------------------1906-1908
Third Variation, caliber only marked on left side of barrel, patent date 10-8-95-------1909-1913
Fourth Variation, caliber only marked on left side of barrel, no patent date, state not spelled out in address (MASS)---------1914-1915
Fifth Variation, caliber only marked on left side of barrel same as 4th except different font used in barrel markings----------1914-1915
Sixth Variation, caliber only marked on left side of barrel. State name in barrel marking spelled out (MASSACHUSETTS)-----1916-1924
Seventh Variation, new grip frame, there is no step down for the grip panels to fit into-----1925-1942
After 1930 listed in catalogs as; PREMIER No. 30 .22 Rimfire 7 shot & PREMIER No. 35.32 S&W 5 shot
VALUE: 100%=$265 60%=$75 Add 10% premium for blue finish; 20% premium 4", 5" or 6" barrel; 20% premium for 22 rimfire caliber; 10% premium for 7th variation
If this is a top break it is a H&R Premier model manufactured in the 1924 to 1930 era or one of its variations. if it is a solid frame model it is a model 1906 or one of its variations manufactured in the 1932 to 1937 era. without a picture or knowning the exact markings i can't give you an exact model.
1940 and after letter codes used to denote year of manufacture. starting with A in 1940 and going to BC in 1986.
Caliber markings on the side of the barrel ALWAYS indicate 1905 or after manufacture. when H&R made the switch to smokeless powder in 1905 they started marking the caliber on the left side of the barrel of all their handguns. no caliber markings = black powder, caliber markings = smokeless powder.
Please keep in mind that H&R did not always obey their own rules and there are exception to every rule. during 1890 though 1904 H&R was manufacturing so many top break revolvers they starting using a letter code after 100,000 had been reached. these letter code were stamped along with the serial number on the bottom of the top strap (the cylinder had to be removed to see this location).
Hammerless Bicycle models (1899-1920). the caliber markings and 6 digit serial number indicate it is a second model and if in good condition it should be safe with modern ammo. the bicycle hammerless (small frame, 2 inch barrel) is serial numbered in the same series as the regular small frame hammerless model.

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I have a Iver Johnson 12ga double barrel with 30" barrel's s/n 28586 How old is it and What is the Value?


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Can you tell me when a colt anaconda serial number MM51530 was made?


http://www.colt.com/Customer-Services/Serial-Number-Lookup

doesn't list the Anaconda for serial 51530. There are some great scanned images from the Colt Catalogue here though and it would be a good place to ask as someone may have the book.

http://www.coltforum.com/forums/colt-revolvers/58590-anacondas-serial-numbers.html

1966 TROOPER MODEL & .357 MODEL 1966 PYTHON MODEL 1948 OFFICERS MODEL 1947 SUPER .38 MODEL INCLUDING SUPER MATCH .38 1943 COMMANDO 1927 WOODSMAN .22 AUTOMATIC 1921 1908 HAMMERLESS .380 1913 MODEL 1911 MILITARY 1912 POLICE POSITIVE SPECIAL & DETECTIVE SPECIAL 1911 POLICE POSITIVE .38 1911 POCKET POSITIVE MODEL (CONTINUED SERIALS FROM NEW POCKET MODEL) 1911 NEW SERVICE & SHOOTING MASTER & 1917 1911 1908 HAMMERLESS .25 1907 1903 HAMMERLESS .32 1907 POLICE POSITIVE .32 & POLICE POSITIVE TARGET 1905 1878 FRONTIER REVOLVER 1900 LIGHTNING MAGAZINE RIFLE-SMALL FRAME .22RF 1895 "NEW ARMY & NAVY MODELS 1892,94,95,96,1901 & 03" 1891 MEDIUM FRAME MODEL 1885 MODEL 1877 LIGHTNING REVOLVER (.38) & THUNDERER (.41) 1879 SINGLE ACTION ARMY & BISLEY REVOLVERS 1877 NEW LINE .22 POCKET 1875 OPEN TOP POCKET MODEL .22 1862 1860 ARMY (.44 CALIBER) 1856 1851 NAVY (.36 CALIBER) 1852 1849 POCKET (.36 CALIBER)

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I have a small smith and wesson 32 5 shot top break revolver like new trying to find the value of it any ideas


HI I am also a collector of firearms. I was in the USMC and just retired after 24 years I just retired 14 months ago. If you will google value of firearms there is a link that will take you to a page where you put all the info in like serial number. Smith and Wesson also has a site that you should look up by the serial number group. You can find a lot of info from that page. To my knowledge Smith and Wesson does not have a value guide on there web site.
i hope this may help you,
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What caliber gun is a colt revolver with serial number 212316?


It is a 32-20 police positive .if you decide to fire it make sure you use the revolver rounds and not the rifle

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Need manufacture date for colt 32 automatic serial #54868


I recgategorised from Colt Watches to a Colt firearm category. There isn't on for autos. Two sites for you

http://www.coltautos.com/mmpd.htm

Looks like 1907.

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Hello! Many Iver Johnson and U.S. Revolver Co. revolvers have a visible serial number on the trigger guard, under top strap, or bottom of ****... However except for earliest guns, the real serial number is hidden on the grip strap under left grip panel with a letter prefix to identify the years made....Guru...saailer

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