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There is a leak at the FOOT of my valsir toilet onto the floor what do I do ?

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You are going to have to do some investigations...

It could be any of these..
#1 Pan to waste pipe connection
#2 Water flush to pan connection
#3 Cistern to water flush connection
#4 Cold water connection
#5 Cistern overflowing
#6 Condensation

If the cold water valve/washer is faulty then the constant flow of cold water is going to create a lot of condensation.

If the leak only appears after you have flushed the toilet then it is likely to be #1, #2 or #3

Just a matter of elimination..

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Hello Gerald Lewin,

Easy job... Just HIGH RISK.

Most folks discover that old WALL VALVE needs
to be replaced as well... $8 -$12 USD.
(a keen eye is needed to get the right one
(see kit below... generally inadequate)).

- That is most likely a failure of the WAX RING SEAL
where the commode sit atop the WASTE flange
(soil pipe). In various diameters.. w/flange (or not)).

This is a job that can go POORLY for SEVERAL
REASONS... PRINCIPALLY over or incorrectly
tightening the (2) HOLD DOWN BOLTS at the
bottom... can shatter the toilet... FORCE NOTHING.

If YOUR TOILET was a $400 Kohler Rialto...
Those run about $1400 these days... (risk)...
Add draining & drying the tank...

Cleaning the wax (gloves work nicely)...
and supervising the hole in the floor
so no TONKA TRUCKS get parked in the
pipe while you are at the HARDWARE STORE...

The SECRET TO SUCCESS... Force nothing...!!
Have a helper sit...bounce up & down while you SNUG (only) those BOTTEM mounting bolts)...

When you buy the WAX ring... buy those new bolts
(hack saw the extra length... once installed).

When you are done putting to toilet back...
GENTLY TIGHTEN the water fittings... put a clean sheet of paper on the FLOOR under the fittings... any drops will leave a mark.

1/4 TURN wall stop (ball valve) is a WONDERFUL upgrade ...
BrassCraft G2CR19X C1 1 2 in NOM Comp Inlet 3 8 in OD Compression Outlet...

Eastman 48087 Closet Toilet Connector Pipe Fittings Amazon com

It really is not a TOUGH JOB...

Good luck.

Posted on Apr 22, 2017

  • deton8 von Splosion Apr 22, 2017

    Should add... TAKE PICTURES: if you do hire a "PROFESSIONAL" that when they crack your
    VALSIR they will say "it was like that ALREADY"... Read their limited liability.
    (THEN... break it yourself for free).

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Replace the gasket

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Hi Connie.

Hoping I'm visualizing this properly. The stand pipe under the house is generally pointing upward and has a flange on it. The toilet will have an indent on the bottom that is somewhat larger that the flange diameter. Then there will be a wax ring that is seated around the neck of the flange right before the toilet is placed down on top of it. The general process is that a new wax ring is placed, the toilet is lifted and, as carefully as possible, lowered straight down over the floor bolts. Once it makes contact on the floor, the toilet is gently rotated a small bit clockwise and counterclockwise to make sure that there is a good solid contact with the wax. The toilet is set square to the wall and, hopefully, with the floor bolts centered on the slots. Someone sits down carefully on the toilet to put pressure on the wax and seal it (this should not be done on a cold day, as the wax may not flow, and may even crack and leave a gap).

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The first thing you need to do is pick out the toilet that you prefer to have. If you are older or have health problems, consider a handicap height toilet. They are a couple of inches taller than a standard toilet and make it much easier to get up from. If you have a lot of usage than a pressure assisted toilet might also be a good fit for you. The extra water pressure will help to keep the toilet from clogging. Toilets usually come without a seat, so don't forget to buy a new one or you can save the one from your previous toilet if it will fit the bowl of the new one.

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