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What is the gap between the ignition module and the flywheel magnets on the Kohler M8 ST motor,used on the Horse tiller.

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The gap is between .015" - .020" when you tighten it down it gets closer so if possible use a .023" shim between the pick up and the magnet to hold it in place.

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You will probably need to remove the engine covers and check the "air-gap" between the coil (ignition module) and the magnets in the flywheel. An acceptable gap is .010"-.012". This is about the equivalent of the thickness of a standard business card. Once you are to the point of adjustment, fold the business card in half (with coil module screws loose, but still in engine), slide the card in between the flywheel and pickup legs on the coil; then turn the flywheel until the magnets line up and let them "draw" the coil in with the folded up card in between. I say fold it, because the pressure from the pull of the magnets actually compresses the paper card, and you end up with an acceptable "air-gap". Tighten the module screws real tight while the card is still in, them remove the card. Try this and post back if needed. You can initially check the "air-gap" with a feeler gauge, but it is tricky with a steel one as it tends to stick to the magnets. They have non-magnetic gauges for this.

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It should NOT be touching or scraping. There should be an "air-gap" of approximately .010" between them. This is about the thickness of a standard business card which is commonly used to set the gap, due to the magnetic nature of the flywheel (steel feeler gauges get stuck). Get a card and fold it in two. Then you loosen the hold down bolts (no need to remove them) on the ignition module and slide the card between the pick up legs and the flywheel, Then, you rotate the flywheel until the magnets in it line up with the legs on the module, drawing it into it. Then, tighten the screws, withdraw the folded up business card and recheck the "air-gap." If the machine will start, but won't idle or continue to run, you may have a fuel related issue (carburetor). Please post back for more help. We will see your comment and reply.

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If this model is a 2 stroke engine, it may need the air-gap adjusted between the ignition coil modules legs and the magnets built into the flywheel.

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You need to use a thin business card to set the pole gap at the module--access the flywheel/module area again and turn the flywheel magnets under the module poles. Insert a thin business card into the pole gaps, loosen the module mounting screws and allow the module to contact the magnets. Tighten the screws and rotate the flywheel somewhat to release the card. Rotate the flywheel one full turn to make sure the gaps don't close up any further. Remove the ignition switch wire from the module body for a test, and try for spark--it should be blue and snappy on a clean plug gapped at 0.020". Hook the ignition switch wire back to the module. Hope this helps!

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I assume that you have already tried a new plug (gapped 0.020") with no results. Remove the left case cover to expose the flywheel and ignition module. Remove the ignition switch wire from the module (not the one tied to the module metal frame), and try for spark again. Check the module pole gap with the flywheel magnets just under the module poles using a thin business card for a gap gauge. Insert the card and loosen the module mounting screws to allow the module to contact the magnets, tighten the screws, and turn the flywheel somewhat to release the card. Turn the flywheel one full turn to make sure the pole gap doesn't close up. Test for spark again--if still nothing, replace the module using the same gap method. Hope this helps!

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Remove the starter mechanism and the left side cover to expose the flywheel and ignition module. If you have little or no spark, try setting the pole gap using a thin business card for a gap gauge. Turn the flywheel magnets under the ignition module poles, insert the card into the gaps, loosen the module screws and allow the poles to contact the magnets. Reset the screws and try for spark. Hope this helps!

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I assume you are speaking of the ignition module pole gap to the flywheel. Rotate the flywheel magnets under the ignition module poles, and use a thin business card for a gauge. With the card in place, loosen the module screws and allow it to contact the magnets, then re-tighten the screws. Rotate the flywheel to remove the card, then turn the flywheel one full turn to make sure the gap does not close up at any point. Don't forget the ignition switch wire. Hope this helps!

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Ignition timing is fixed by use of a flywheel 'key' that locks the flywheel to the crankshaft. If the key happens to shear, then the timing will be incorrect. Expose the flywheel and check the ignition module gap to the flywheel magnets by using a thin business card for a gauge. Turn the magnets under the module, insert the card, and loosen the module mounting screws. Allow the module to stick to the magnets, then tighten the screws. Rotate the flywheel to remove the card, then turn it one complete revolution to make sure the gap doesn't close up any further. Remove the spark plug and check for snappy, blue spark when the engine is pulled through. If no spark, remove the ignition switch wire from the ignition module, the retry for spark. If still nothing, replace the ignition module itself. If pulling the wire gives spark, then check the ignition switch and the wire for grounding at some point. Hope this helps!

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No spark


leave your killswitch wire not hooked up and try?
check the flywheel key way and be sure it is aligned perfectly with the key way on the crankshaft
if it is you are in time
if not its out of time (timing off)
since it didnt work with the air gap at .014 go closer and set at .012 and see what happens
be sure to adj. the air gap at the magnet part of the flywheel and ign. module and secure module at a setting you want

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