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I have a Kitchenaid KDTM354DSS3 with a bad circulation pump. The screen inside the pump housing tore and stopped the impeller. Is this a common occurance?

The screen is very fine and looks like it should be a cylinder shape. Mine sticks out of the impeller housing. Yes, I had to disassemble the pump to find the problem.

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hotratchet
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SOURCE: Hi there I have a

Sounds like you have a seal or impeller problem. Its not so user friendly to try and tackle this one. I suggest that you try to contact an expert to do the job for you. I believe this is a common problem for Bosch dishwashers.

Well, another possibility is that your check valve (stops water from coming back) is busted. This seldom happens but you might want to check it out. I hope this helps you in isolating the problem.

Posted on May 28, 2009

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SOURCE: circulation pump is stuck

Hello Stonegroup,
The impeller is located below the bottom filter trap. Remove the tray and at the twelve 'O' Clock position you will see a small opening. Inside there are the pump impellers. take the Hackenschlussel (Hook spanner/Miele tool) and insert it in the opening and turn. You should turn it a few times and be able to feel the impellers free up. Also, Make sure you run the dishwasher atleast once a monch to avoid the circulation pump getting stuck like this

Posted on Sep 17, 2009

joe_lishman
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SOURCE: Asko 1805 DW Circulation pump NF. What is the

The pump motor can easly be tested by 1) Physically looking at the pump motor in the pump out mode. The motor must spin freely. The motor has 2 push on electrical connections that must have AC voltage across them in pump out mode. If voltage is present and motor not spinning indicates the motor windings are open circuit. No voltage at the 2 terminals indicate that the electrical / electronic switch circuit is faulty. The impeller could be jammed from debris or pipe blocked.

Posted on Jan 25, 2010

Macmarkus
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Hello Tom,

I hope I can help, it is a problem I`ve witnessed and repaired many times...unfortunately.

I guess I should start with the bad news though, the impeller assembly for Asko dishwashers are not available as a serviceable part but rather you`ll need the entire assembly, Asko original # 80 712 50-77, as shown here...

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The part number substitutes to # 1194631 at "repairclinic.com".

The good news is if you are even a little mechanically inclined, you can replace it yourself.

I can certainly walk you through the "how to", but I`m presently still on the road but should arrive home in the next hour or two and I can better help you from my home PC.

I`ll watch for your reply to insure you`ve received my response to your request/post.

If I don`t see a reply when I arrive home, I`ll simply post my instructions anyway.

Regards,

Macmarkus :)

Posted on Oct 05, 2010

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SOURCE: How do I reinstall the

you may have tilted the seal when installing so take it apart again and make sure it is all the way down in its bed and it streight to the shaft . and looks centered then reinstall all other parts and try again .. mm hope this helps . mmfeed back pls ..

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