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Posted on Jan 02, 2017
SOURCE: Squeeking noise
Here's a possible troubleshooting fix I just sent to someone else that quite possibly has the same problem you have there now.
Hope it helps you out as well, as it is a bit long, but I'll post the whole reply I sent them and you can use whatever parts of it that will work for you.
My name is Frank...
Regarding your possibly broken dryer.
I'm hoping that this info below helps you out even though I know I won't be able to repair/fix your dryer myself personally. Reason why - I'll explain further down.
I've repaired a few gas dryers & washing machines as well in my time. I can honestly say that I'm as close to being an expert as they come - esp when it comes to making repairs on existing dryer parts that can no longer be purchased as they are either obsolete, or way over-priced.
This is what I do for a semi-retired hobby, and sideline self-employed FIX-IT business. Named appropriately - FRANK'S FIX-IT SHOP. It's only an online fix it at present. Keeps me busy instead of being bored to death.
Electric clothes dryers are typically made the same as gas dryers - as to the mechanical drum part. Only thing different in a gas unit is the 110VAC electrical igniter or element, and the gas delivery system that provides the drying heat to the dryer itself.
All else is basically the same...
In an electric clothes dryer all the power comes from the 220VAC source as to the heating element, etc. The mechanical parts are typically the same as that of a gas dryer.
Having said this - the problem with your dryer can only have one of possibly 2 things wrong with it - seeings it's no doubt 220VAC totally electric, unless you actually have gas where you are there, which is rare in Florida these days!
If after you start the drying cycle you quickly open the dryer door, and you notice the drum is actually rotating - until there is the loss of electric power via a safety door switch that kills electric power to the drum motor activity - then there is NOT a problem with a broken drum belt.
If your dryer is older then say 10-15 years, and you really use it alot - then maybe there's a possibility of a broken drum belt (cost is around $10-15 for a new belt part depending on model - usually - and that does not include labor to install it).
Usually you'll hear the motor whining, but no drum 'noise' or movement. Dead giveaway as to a broken belt.
I had replaced 2 belts and 1 IDLER wheel on my own 30+ year old gas Kenmore dryer before selling it, and then picked up a more recent newer model GE washer & gas dryer that someone was just giving away for free. My 30+ year old Kenmore washer had just died on me at the same time is why I upgraded. Can't pass up a great freebie deal like that everyday! Never had to fix anything on my Kenmore washer during the time I owned it - it was GREAT!! I miss it dearly now.....
Though they were both newer GE models I really don't care for GE anything, as I think they are poorly built, as well as is their refrigerator brands as well.
Don't buy GE anything if you don't have to!! You heard it here from me and I know. My GE washer already broke a belt not even being 8-9 years old, and it was hell to replace, and never worked right afterwords as for the water pump part. Very POOR design! Oh well...
The gas dryer works fine, but the lint collector is not anywhere as good as my old Kenmore was. Poor design in my opinion.
I'm looking for another Kenmore or Whirlpool (set) model now, as they are the best. Kenmores are made by Whirlpool btw, just in case you didn't know that. The best in the business!
As to your other possible noise scenario -
The only other weird noise scenario you'll experience if it's a Kenmore dryer is when the drum "spring loaded track IDLER wheel" goes bad. This drum IDLER wheel is located under the drum itself at the back part of the drum and rides in a groove in the drum itself. It also helps to stabilize and counter-balance the drive belt-loaded turning drum that rides on this drum IDLER wheel as it turns. If your dryer does have the rear drum IDLER wheel system, then it just depends on the make and model. Kenmores & Whirlpools are designed this way. Very good design I might add!!
Some, or all GE dryer models may have a rear drum centering bearing assy instead - and in addition to - a front (Support, 3 glide front drum bearing part# 2359 & a Drum front slide bearing part# 2305 times 3 needed). If this/these front support/slide bearing part(s) goes bad usually the "felt duct" will need to be replaced as well. It not only helps to seal and quiet the drum that runs on the Support part, but it also helps to keep clothes from getting in-between the Support C part and helps prevent clothes from getting damaged. If those (3) friction sliders wear out or fall out, and take out or damage the "felt duct" as well, then the noise will be horrendously LOUD.
The front part of the GE drum models usually rides on a separate front panel support assy which can be made of a plastic C shaped device with anti-friction pad strips to help in frictionless rotation of the drum. A cheap but pretty effective design that does away with a front IDLER wheel, or pair of IDLER wheels as it were at the front of the dryer's frame which houses the door assy as well.
Though my Kenmore replacement drum IDLER wheel only cost me around $17 many years ago I see they now are anywhere in the $30+ range. Ouch! If it's the GE rear bearing assy that has gone bad - another Ouch as that part runs around $50+. Just depends on where you are and parts availability.
Most Kenmore/Whirlpool model dryers with the rear spring loaded drum IDLER wheel design do not have a ball bearing design, but rather have a typical cheaper brass bushing design instead, and when the grease lubricant dries out or they become dirty from picking up dirt in the air such as lint from the drum, etc then they begin to SQUEAL or WHINE very loudly.
The longer this goes on like this the hotter the drum IDLER track wheel gets until it melts the "typically" molded plastic housing, and then it really makes a lot of noise, and could actually lend to the drum belt breaking - as due from the added friction & stress from the binding wheel. It can also damage the front "felt duct" material as well. I had to repair mine as best I could as they had n factory replacement part that I knew off.
The only other mechanical parts that could possibly make any squealing type noise would be the electric belt drive motor or the heat blower motor being gas or electric. If the heat blower motor uses a cheaper brass sleeve shaft bushing bearing that would be rare, but could be a noise source as well. The belt drive motor rarely rarely would ever go bad!!
I hope this info helps to narrow down your problem if you are not able to at least open the top up to inspect the dryer yourself. Always unplug the 110VAC power before opening any cover or panel part up though!
That will not only prevent any electrical shock hazard, but will also keep the gas from turning on by mistake - as by solenoid design - if your dryer is gas.
I suspect this is what's wrong with your dryer.
Again - I hope the info helps you out...
Posted on Mar 05, 2008
remove the lint fiter and remove the two phillips screws then lift the top up
you will find two screws on each side of the inside of the frount panel down about 4 inches , this when removed will allow you to swing the frount arround to gain access to the belt
Posted on Apr 30, 2008
Here is the answer to my own question and for anyone else who may have a similar noise problem with coins , metal objects, etc getting under the vanes or fins in the dryer drum. DISCONNECT OR UNPLUG DRYER-Remove 4 screws from the back edge of the control panel on the back of the dryer. Then lift up on the backside of the cover that also has the control unit attached to it. Slide the top cover towards the front of the dryer and then lift up on front and lay the entire cover and control panel towards the back of the dryer. A wall works great to hold this out of your way. The control panel remains on the cover and the drum will stay intact. Rotate the drum to locate which fin or vane the object is located. Move this vane to top and then remove three screws that is holding the vane. These are course threaded screws that screw into the plastic vanes. a nu6t driver was required. After removing the vane I found a quarter, and a few lint balls, There are only three vanes in the drum, so take about 10 more minutes and remove all three vanes to clean out the lint.To reinstall cover slide the cover back onto the two clips(one on each side) push towards back, checking to make sure front is held down by the clips, then replace the 4 screws on backside of dryer. If the lady of the house is around, it would now be a good time to clean out from behind and under the dryer to get up the rest of the dust, lint, and whatever remains or was lost.
Posted on Sep 02, 2008
remove the scresw holding the door on, remove the door, the remove the 2 screws oppisite th edoor inge and the front panel will lift off. there will be 2 5/16 screws holding the top down to the frame of unit, the top will then lift up[ giving you acces to the outside of the drum to resecure the drum baffle
Posted on Nov 21, 2008
One of two ways depending on oh made this unit GE or WPL FIRST look at the top of the door opening for two screws if there is no screws get a flat head screw drive and look with a flash light between the top and front pane you should see a clip about 2 inches from the sides going tworge the middle use a flat screwdriver place in the crack between the top and front panel and hit the back of the screwdriver with you hand should push the clip back an the top pop up do the same onthe other side (before you start if you lent filter goes in the top of the dryer remove the two screws holding that down to remove the front in the side panel going into the front is a screw on both side remove then lift the front up too unclip the bottom clips good luck.
Posted on Mar 30, 2009
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