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When trying to wind the bobbin how do I get it to wind. The machine keeps the power on the length dial!

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Almost all sewing machines have a wheel,on the right side that can be pulled out. When installed,out it only winds the bobbin.

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Posted on Dec 21, 2016

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Code 88 starts flashing as well as all the stitching lights on the panel when I try to thread the bobbin. I can sew, that is NOT the problem, threading the bobbin is. What is Code 88? I am not interested...


Turn your machine off and leave it off. Remove all bobbins - in the machine & from the pin. Remove all thread - from threaded machine and bobbin thread path. Clip the machine thread at the spool and pull the needle thread towards yourself. Clip bobbin thread at spool and close to bobbin, then pull towards you through thread guides. This keeps the tension where it belongs. Move the bobbin winding shaft from normal sewing back to winding bobbin a couple times. It should click in place when moved to the winding position. Check to see if there is any thread that has slipped under the bottom of the bobbin and wound itself around & under the bottom of the shaft. Carefully unwind to clear. If the shaft does not easily move back to the sewing position it is probably stuck in the winding position. Don't force it, but try to get it out of the winding position. Leave it to the left in the normal sewing position (unclicked). Check to see if there is any thread caught anywhere along the path from spool to the winding pin. Pay close attention to the first thread guide and the two discs the thread slips between that control tension. Hand wind the wheel on the right towards you to raise and lower the needle a couple of times. Stop with needle in highest position. Do NOT wind hand wheel backwards (away from you). Make sure the bobbin pin is not in the winding position. Now turn on your machine. Needle should jump to default position. Move the stitch length and stitch width guides to the far right, then far left, to attain the green lights. Press the reverse stitch button to raise lower and raise the needle. It will stop in the highest position. If you still have the error code - make sure the bobbin winding pin is NOT in the winding position. Remove the needle. Lower the presser foot and run the machine without any thread a bit. If the needle bar does not go up and down most likely the bobbin pin is stuck in the winding position. If the code has cleared use your manual to carefully wind a new bobbin. Make sure you are using a 15J bobbin which this machine requires. It will not work with just any bobbin. Next, raise the presser foot then carefully thread the machine. If you don't have a manual you can download one from the Singer website. You might consider cleaning the entire machine paying special attention to the hook area and feed dogs while the power is off. If you find a lot of lint do this more frequently to prevent buildup. Take special care when replacing the bobbin care. Hope this helps. If not call Singer. It may take some time but you should be able to reach someone to help you troubleshoot. If this is an older machine I recommend taking it for repair yourself instead of sending to Singer

reference: http://www.amazon.com/Singer-7466-Electronic-Sewing-Machine/forum/Fx3BSOY0VA78VQ4/-/1?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B000B91B3K

Mar 28, 2015 | Sewing Machines

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Stitch length singer


Run through the "10 minute tuneup" here: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090925205957AAq0xc4 DO NOT MESS WITH THE BOBBIN TENSION. Top tension setting should be about 3-4. Stitch length probably in the neighborhood of 2.5 - 3.5 mm.

Little kids and sewing machines seem to have a natural attraction, which is why my mom taught me to sew on her machine when I was 5. Sometimes it's easier to teach the kid how to do it right than keep the kid from messing with the machine.

Jun 24, 2014 | Sewing Machines

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My elna sewing machine bobbin won't spin on top to wind thread around. The fly wheel spins though...I've been putting thread on the bobbins by hand.


If the fly wheel is going around then the clutch isn't disengaged to wind the bobbin, you need to pull out the flywheel on your model to disengage the clutch for bobbin winding.

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Take thread from thread spool across to bobbin winder thread guide, then back to bobbin and thread the tail through the hole on top of the bobbin. Place bobbin onto spindle on top of machine and then push it against the stop to engage the bobbin winding motor. HOld the thread tail up and start winding slowly until the bobbin core has been covered including the starting point. Stop and trim off the thread tail with scissors. COntinue winding bobbin and give the thread a nudge if needed to wind evening top middle and bottom of the bobbin. A good smooth wind is important. Also don't wind at full speed and keep an eye on the thread reel that the thread is coming off, you don't want it bouncing around as this will **** the thread and stretch then relax it affecting your bobbin wind.

Obviously if you know this and the bobbin winding mechanisim is just not working, then it will need a service/replacement by an Elna repair person.

Aug 01, 2011 | Elna 2007 Mechanical Sewing Machine

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I had my machine in the closet for 5 years and now need to sew a hem on my cotton pants. What should the settings be set at? Right now it is at a 4 and the stitch length is a 2 1/2. The thread is too...


If your machine has been stored for 5 years, you should give it a good clean and oil according to the manual before you do anything else. Then put in a new needle and wind a fresh bobbin, checking that the bobbin has been wound smoothly as a badly wound bobbin can cause poor tension and stitching from the bottom thread.

You want the thread to go from the spool through a tension disc or eyelet to the bobbin and keep some gentle tension onto the thread spool using your scissors handle or similar so that the thread winds off it smoothly and the spool doesn't bounce around. Also give the thread a nudge with your finger tip as it winds onto the bobbin so it fills evenly, top, middle and bottom, not all in the middle.

Are you wanting a straight stitch to sew around the hemline? If so, your stitch length is right, but stitch width should be zero. You don't say what knob is set to 4, if its your top tension then that should be close, usually between 4 and 6 if dial goes from zero to 10.

Which thread is too tight? top or bottom. Firstly check the threading path to ensure that the top thread isn't catching on anything, is through the take up lever properly and coming from the thread spool without catching there. Some thread spools have a little knick in the top where you can catch the thread to store it, but you dont' want the thread to catch here when seaming, so turn it around the other way on the spool so it can't.

Try test stitching a medium zig zag stitch on scrap fabric, and you'll be able to see if the bottom thread is pulling in or the top one, then adjust the tension dial a little to lessen this.

Hope these pointers help, if you can't get a good neat stitch after trying these things, then consider taking it for a clean and service, the technician can get inside and clean the machine thoroughly and also check for any other issues that might be there.

Apr 30, 2011 | Singer 57815 Mechanical Sewing Machine

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The tension on the bobbin is giving big loops and then breaking


This could be one of the following:
  • wrong bobbin for the machine
  • bobbin loaded the wrong way - must rotate anticlockwise when you pull the thread
  • thread not into the tension spring/device on the bobbin holder correctly
  • bobbin wound badly, uneven tension, loose or uneven across the bobbin
  • poor quality or old dry brittle thread could cause the breaking (but the loops is definitely tension issues).
This is a top loading bobbin machine machine and you can download a manual from
http://www.singerco.com/accessories/manuals.html

Here is the threading diagram from the manual.

tally_girl_21.jpg It is important to click the thread down into the tension spring on all top loading bobbin machines and then pull gently on the thread to check that it is under tension, you should feel firm resistance when you pull the thread. If not, then take it out, and try again.

Other thing to look at is how the bobbin is wound. It is necessary to wind a bobbin smoothly and with some tension on the spool as the thread comes off it. Best analogy is the garden hose reel. If you wind it up and don't control where the hose goes onto the reel it will all lump up in the middle, and you won't get all the hose onto it. And then when you go to pull the hose out, it will jam and be difficult to pull. Same with bobbin thread. You want a nice neat even fill across the whole width of the bobbin, not just the middle. To achieve this make sure you use the bobbin winder tension disc when winding. Also use the spool cap on top of the thread spool to stop it from bouncing around as it unwinds - the thread will then wind off around the spool cap and this keeps it running smoothly and not twisting and jerking. If you don't have a spool cap then put the curved handle of a pair of scissors on top of the thread spool to tension it while you wind the bobbin. Also watch the bobbin as it winds, give the thread a nudge with your finger to control the fill onto the bobbin so it winds top, bottom and middle of the bobbin evenly.

I would suggest the following:
clean out the race following the manual directions to remove the bobbin holder, clean in this area, replace it. Wind a fresh bobbin and then load it into the machine, following the manual instructions carefully. Also thread the top of the machine following the manual, put in a new sharp needle from the pack, turn the top tension dial to a medium number (often 5 if dial goes from zero to 10).

Now test sew again. Look at the seam, if you have loops on the bottom of the fabric, underside, then the top thread tension is too loose or not in the top tension discs fully. Generally you should not need to adjust the tension on the bobbin thread for these machines.


Apr 13, 2011 | Singer 5050 Mechanical Sewing Machine

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The bobbin winds really loose and uneven and then gets caught up when I'm sewing. I've checked I'm threading it correctly when winding... seems to be worse with polyester and embroidery thread. Help!


You need to keep tension on the thread spool as you wind the bobbin to avoid this from happening. Also, is there a little tension device to take the thread around between the spool and the bobbin winder? Some machines have a little silver button tensioner purely for bobbin winding to keep the thread flowing smoothly.

But I always do the following anyway just to ensure a smooth bobbin. Take the thread from your spool, through the eyelet or tensioner, then back to the bobbin and put the tail end up through a hole in the top of the bobbin. Now put the bobbin onto the winder and click it against the stop. Place the curved handle of a pair of scissors onto the top of the thread spool and apply some gentle pressure to stop the spool from bouncing and jumping while winding off. Keep doing this through the winding process.

Start the bobbin winding mechanisim, its a button on my Janome 6500, yours might be a little different. HOLD the thread tail until you've got coverage over the whole bobbin area catching the starting point. Stop, trim the thread tail off top of the bobbin with scissors, then restart winding again. Watch as the thread winds and give it a nudge with your finger tip to the top or bottom so the bobbin winds evenly across the whole spool's width.

Best analogy here is when you wind the garden hose onto the reel, if it goes on all over the place you never get the whole length on neatly, but if you wind it on neatly in an even tight coil across the spool, then back again, then repeat, you get a tidy hose. But just wind madly, it all builds up in the middle, you can't get it all onto the reel, and it won't pull out nicely next time you need it. Same thing with your SM thread.

Polyester and silky embroidery threads will be worse too as they are silky, so if the thread hasn't been wound on smoothly and under tension, then it will "collapse" with gravity, then when you use the bobbin, the thread is going to be caught on itself, will feed unevenly and be stretched, then loose, giving you less than perfect stitch tension.

My other bobbin tip is store the bobbins in a plastic bobbin tray so they are lying on their edges and under a cover. Keeps them neater and they are less likely to unwind stray threads around your sewing cabinet if you store them on the spool pins build onto the cabinet door - and it keeps the thread dust free. But I do not keep thread on bobbins for long, prefer to wind a fresh one off a new spool when I start a project and can usually complete a garment with a 3/4 filled bobbin, use the remaining few metres for handsewing, then junk the rest. Then I put the thread spool that is left back into a sealed takeway container to keep it away from UV, dust and moisture.

I hope this assists you with your machine and certainly if this doesn't resolve the bobbin issues, then I'd suggest you visit your dealer and ask them to demonstrate the technique on your machine to see if there is a technical issue with it.

Apr 10, 2011 | Elna Xplore 8600 Computerized Sewing...

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I need a manual for an Elna Special machine. I am not sure of how to thread the machine properly and I don't know what one of the dials on the front of the machine does.


There is also a Yahoo group for Heirloom Elna owners which this model is.
You can find threading diagrams and manuals at www.sewusa.com. the supermatic will be closest to your Special. This webpage has images of threading the bobbin; all Swiss made Elna's have this wonderful top loading bobbin system and they are great. Important: use Elna bobbins, they have holes on the TOP ONLY. When you wind the bobbin, ensure the thread winds evenly by nudging the thread with your finger tip, keep the thread under tension as it winds by placing the handle of your scissors onto the top of the thread reel. Cut the thread, then place the bobbin into the bobbin case, holes upwards. The bobbin will turn anticlockwise as you pull thread from it. Follow the directions from the threading diagram, you need to "click" the thread into the tension spring. Now thread the top thread through the marked locations in the diagram. Hold the end of the thread as it comes from the needle and manually turn the flywheel to lower the needle down and up once to catch the bottom thread and bring it up to the needle plate.

ALWAYS hold both the two threads at the back of the needle plate when you start sewing, really important. I tally_girl.jpg You will have a knob with numbers going from -4 to 4, this is your stitch length dial. The negative numbers are "Reverse" normal stitch length is 2.5. The white knob is stitch width when the needle swings from side to side. Straight stitch would be zero, and then higher numbers for zig zag etc. The little wheel gives you different needle positions. And the metal slide at top of case is the reverse lever.
Hope this helps you a little. Early Elnas are all very similar and wonderful machines to use.

Feb 24, 2011 | Elna Sewing Machines

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Winding the bobbin


sometimes with older machines you need to add a little tension on the thread your winding from with your finger. It sounds like its coming off the spool too fast to keep up with bobbin winding.

Mar 31, 2009 | Kenmore Sewing Machines

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