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My new Quilt Expressions 4.2 sews fine when I piece but when I fmq I have problems with thread shredding How to fix?

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Shredding thread could be several things. First, make sure the thread and needle are compatible. If the needle's eye is too small for the thread, it will eventually shred the thread. There are also needles with larger scarfs that will protect the thread from shredding as it repeatedly pierces fabric. Also, trying a different brand/type of thread may make a difference--focus on good quality thread for fmq. The tension may be set too tight. Finally, there could be a burr or snag somewhere that is causing the thread to shred.

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Are you using the right needles, size and type? Before, you wreck your material, take it in and have it serviced. I know everyone hates to pay for service, but if you like your machine it will be worth it to have it running at its peak. Just like a car, we spend tons on them but expect a sewing machine to never need anything. Remember, it is worth it.

Posted on Sep 13, 2010

SOURCE: Janome 1600 thread shred and breakage

could be a bad section of the thread
check for burrs around the needle plate area and also in the bobbin
area and on the thread guide close to the needle.
The needle thread breaks
1. the needle thread is not threaded properly
2. The needle thread tension is to tight
3. The needle is bent or blunt
4. The needle is incorrectly inserted
5. The needle thread & the bobbin thread are not set under the presser foot when starting to sew
6. the threads were not drawn to the rear after sewing
7. The thread is either to heavy or to fine for the needle

Posted on Dec 10, 2012

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My machine is adding loops under my stitches when I try to stitch a straight stitch, I am trying to machine stitch a quilt top!


Quilting is a bit more finicky than regular sewing. Be sure to ALWAYS RAISE the presser foot when threading the top thread. FWIW, I use a separate bobbin case for FMQ that I have tightened the tension to keep the bobbin thread from coming to the top of the sandwich, but I tend to use a finer thread for quilting so adjusting the bobbin takes care of it. In your case, however, it sounds like the top thread is staying under the fabric. I would try tightening the top tension. Also, install a brand new needle--a top stitch, embroidery, or microtex needle seem to work well for me. Test well on a sandwich made of the same fabric and batting and get it adjusted well before sewing on your quilt. Sometimes sewing speed will affect stitches under the fabric, or even on top.

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Correct tension for fmq


Not sure what you're asking. FWIW, for FMQ, stitch length should really have no affect if you drop the feed dogs. The stitch length is determined by how fast you move the fabric and how fast the machine stitches.

For tension, it is dependent on your particular machine. To make that determination, make up sample sandwiches made of the same fabric and batting as your quilt and practice FMQ and adjusting the tension until the threads meet in the middle of the sandwich. For most of my FMQ, I use a specific bobbin case that has been adjusted and used only for FMQ.

Jan 17, 2018 | Sewing Machines

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I have a Janome magnolia 7318. when I lower feed dogs to quilt it will not sew circles or feathers well. It pulls bobbin thread up on top in loops.


I've found that when FMQing, I usually need to increase the bobbin tension to keep the bobbin thread down (for this reason, I have a separate bobbin case that has the tension adjusted that is used only for FMQ). You may even need to decrease the top tension if the top thread is "pulling" the bobbin thread up.

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CANT QUILT WITH MY JUKI TENSION PROBLEMS


Okay, you've tried a lot of things. The question is this: is the thread snapping (where abouts in the path), or is it shredding at the needle? Here are a few more:

Remove the top thread, ALWAYS RAISE the presser foot, and rethread from the beginning.
Try different thread--perhaps a polyester thread like Isacord or Aurafil. (AVOID old or bargain bin thread.)
Try a different kind of needle (brand new needle!)--like a top-stitch, microtex, or embroidery. The top stitch needle has a larger scarf that will better protect the thread if shredding is the issue. (I use a special bobbin case that I've increased the tension for Isacord thread and I use the same thread in top and bobbin.) I also decrease the top tension a tad so the bobbin thread will not pull to the top. You may need to install brand-new needles several times on one quilt when they get dull.
Usually an 80 or 90 needle will work for FMQ through a fabric/batting sandwich.
Check that the needle's eye is the appropriate size for the thread (also a cause of shredding thread).
Set the upper tension at the midway point perhaps a bit looser for FMQ (this tension will probably need to be tweaked for your particular machine due to wear and age).
Use an FMQ foot and drop the feed dogs. A Supreme Slider (avlb on the internet) is very helpful in helping move the quilt while doing FMQ.
Work at a moderate but steady pace. I find a faster speed while FMQ gets me into trouble...like spots I can't get out of, overlapping stitches, or outside the quilt edge.

FWIW, I still get some skipped stitches with FMQ. Usually, it happens when I move the fabric too fast, especially around a curve. I have a tendency of speeding up while going around a curve that will cause skipped stitches or eyelashing.

I'm also wondering if there is something to do with the fabric and/or batting you are using...like is it Batik? Batik is very tightly woven and presents some particular challenges. The type of batting could be more dense, making it harder for the needle to penetrate the sandwich. Also, pulling or stretching the fabric can cause skipped stitches.

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Good luck!

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Janome 1600P DBX


You need to drop the feed dogs, install a darning or free motion quilting foot (make sure the presser foot is lowered). Because you will not be using the machine to move the fabric, the stitch length selection is of no importance. Make sure the stitch width is set to zero. You should test FMQ on a scrap quilt sandwich of the same makeup of your project, ie quilt fabric with batting sandwiched between. The upper tension should be set so that both threads meet in the middle of the quilt sandwich. Because it is FMQ, some extra adjustment may be needed.

Once the tension is where you want it, you can practice FMQ until you can move it smoothly in conjunction with the machine speed.

Practicing on a white board with erasable markers is a handy way to learn to move smoothly. The most difficult part of free motion quilting is learning to move the fabric smoothly. Do NOT lack for practice as that is the only way to improve. Those people who make it look simple have been doing it for years!

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I am quilting and the thread keeps breaking. What is the problem?


Not sure if you are piecing or trying to free motion quilt. If FMQ, try using an Embroidery needle (it has a groove in the shaft that helps protect the thread) or a Topstitch needle. Make sure the thread is not too thick for the needle's eye. Check to make sure the upper and lower tensions are not too tight. You might try changing brand/type of thread.

Here's a needle guide:
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Or review suggestions for breaking thread here:
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Hope this helps!

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Pfaff quilt expression 4 0


The top thread breaks

1. the needle thread is not threaded properly

2. The needle thread tension is to tight

3. The needle is bent or blunt

4. The needle is incorrectly inserted

5. The needle thread & the bobbin thread are not set under the presser foot when starting to sew

6. the threads were not drawn to the rear after sewing

7. The thread is either to heavy or to fine for the needle

8. Try a different spool or cone of thread

Aug 23, 2013 | Sewing Machines

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Janome 1600 thread shred and breakage


could be a bad section of the thread
check for burrs around the needle plate area and also in the bobbin
area and on the thread guide close to the needle.
The needle thread breaks
1. the needle thread is not threaded properly
2. The needle thread tension is to tight
3. The needle is bent or blunt
4. The needle is incorrectly inserted
5. The needle thread & the bobbin thread are not set under the presser foot when starting to sew
6. the threads were not drawn to the rear after sewing
7. The thread is either to heavy or to fine for the needle

Dec 09, 2012 | Sewing Machines

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Pfaff quilt expression 4 It shreds thread when free machine quilting and will not cut threads with the cutter. I need to be able to fmq without worrying. I have had a new cutter and keep cleaning...


Are you using the right needles, size and type? Before, you wreck your material, take it in and have it serviced. I know everyone hates to pay for service, but if you like your machine it will be worth it to have it running at its peak. Just like a car, we spend tons on them but expect a sewing machine to never need anything. Remember, it is worth it.

Sep 12, 2010 | Sewing Machines

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Cannot machine quilt without the thread breaking and/or shredding. I've change needle, thread type and size and tension on my fabric.


If the thread is shredding and breaking, there is an incompatibility of your needle, thread, and fabric. Could be old, bargain bin, or poor quality thread--does the thread have little "hairs" of thread lint sticking out of it--that's probably not good quality. Look for fresh, good quality thread. Try a brand new needle--a sharp if you are sewing woven fabric. Make sure the thread is not too big for the needle eye. Sometimes, a top-stitch needle or embroidery needle will work well on FMQ. (A top-stitch needle has a longer scarf which helps protect the thread during the multiple times the needle penetrates the fabric before the thread forms a stitch. Shredding means the thread is getting worn out before it forms a stitch. A piece of thread penetrates the fabric 10-20 times before it forms a stitch.) Could also be a snag somewhere that is damaging the thread.

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Most FMQ instructions say the upper and bobbin tension should be the same, however, I find my machine works a bit better when the bobbin thread is just a little tighter than the upper thread. Then the bobbin thread does not "pop" up on the top of my fabric quite as much. It's probably something you will just need to experiment with in getting used to your machine.

P.S.--when threading your machine, make sure the Presser Foot is ALWAYS RAISED so the top thread will seat properly in the tension disk. Failure to do this will cause thread barfs (usually referred to as thread nests or bird nests) under your fabric. Also, before beginning your FMQ, ALWAYS PULL the bobbin thread to the top of the fabric, then hold both thread tails gently in your left hand while you slowly take the first couple of stitches.

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