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I am using the embroidery function and my stitches aren't very densely packed. Will thread tension fix this?

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SOURCE: Loose stitching underneath. HOW CAN I FIX!!!!

I'm **t sure what you mean by freehand stitching........do you get a good even stitch with zig zag, this is the most important first test ?

Ensure that all is clean and free of lint jams....**w for tension troubleshooting .......

This solution is for tension problems...if you can**t form any sort of stitch, the issue is quite different, so please let me k**w if you need a different problem solved.....

It is quite long, but just work through each section in order.
The "k**tting up" can reveal a lot. If you have loose threads on one side or the other, the tension on the opposite side will be the culprit.

QUICK SUMMARY FIRST:
Ensure sharp new needle,
Thread guides and Bobbin are Clean & Clear of lint
Set Top Tesion to 4 ....then....
Balance Bobbin to suit.

TOP THREAD TENSION:
If the looping threads are on the underside as you sew, it is the top tension. Top tension ought to be between 4 & 6 (this variation to allow for the different weights of fabric in your
projects).

IS YOUR NEEDLE SHARP ?
If you are using a needle that has seen quite a deal of work, or you suspect it may be blunt, change it for a new one !

TOP TENSION & GUIDES:
Make sure that when you thread the machine the presser foot is up so the thread goes between the discs and **t to one side, top tension between 4 and 6, and that you have threaded through all the guides, including the last one, usually on the needle arm, just above the needle clamp.

It may be there is lint trapped between the discs, this will keep them slightly apart and reduce the actual tension, sometimes dramatically.

If tensions appear correct, and the thread is definitely in the channel between the discs, but still too loose and looping, try raising presser foot and remove your thread.

Now, with a 2" (50mm) wide strip piece of fabric 8 - 10" (20 - 25cm) moistened with methylated or denatured spirit, gently insert the fabric strip and clean between the discs with
a see saw / to and fro action.

In the worst cases, gentle use of a needle to pick & remove the jam may be necessary, but be very gentle and make sure the tension is set at Zero and the presser foot is raised, (to
disengage tension plates).... do **t gouge or score the plates, they need a polished surface to work correctly.

BOBBIN TENSION:
Far less common, but if the loose threads are on the top, it is bobbin tension that is loose, it too may have lint in the spring and be giving a "false" tension.

I would **t recommend fiddling with bobbin tension without good reason, it may end up with missing small *****s and spring pieces, however, you can take the needle plate off to clean
the hook race area (where bobbin case sits)

...this is just good housekeeping, my wife does this every time she replaces the bobbin....

just take it out and clean the bobbin case and the fixed metal hook race with a small brush to remove lint. If there is a significant amount of lint, use a vacuum and small brush to get the worst.

Then wipe all this area with a cloth or cotton bud (Q tip) moistened (**t soaked) with methylated spirit, especially if there appears to be fine dirty deposits....oil and lint combine to conspire against you.

If it seems likely that you ......really ....do .....actually .....need .....to adjust the bobbin case, first check there is ** lint trapped in the metal spring where the thread is tensioned.

TOP LOADER:
Drop-in Bobbin case will look similar to this image with the tension ***** in the middle of the metalwork....

4c76dc1.jpg ...the other ***** at one end is holding it all together, so beware....it is **t a tragedy to undo the whole lot and clean it, but very gingerly and lay the bits out in sequence and orientation, or you risk tearing your hair out !

FRONT LOADER:
....this is a bobbin case from a front loading machine and works in a very similar fashion to the top loader with drop in bobbin, again, if you dismantle it, take care so you can put it all
back properly.
165ca5c.jpg FINISHING UP
GETTING THE BALANCE RIGHT:
When you are certain there's ** trapped lint in top tension or bobbin, set the top tension to 4 and the bobbin tension to a point where you just begin to feel resistance.

Try using good quality thread of contrasting colours so you can more easily spot the changes.

Set your zigzag to one width less than maximum (eg. 5 of 6 ...or... 4 of 5 etc) and sew a sample for a few inches and check the result.... adjust the bobbin tension ***** very little at
a time, perhaps 1/16 of a turn.

You may find you are playing with this balance for some little while and if you are putting the needleplate on and off each time begin to think it can**t be correct to do this.....BUT....it is,
and eventually, you do get a "feel" for the correct tension and then it happens quite quickly.....as a user you won't be doing it very often unless there is lint built up (or are there small hands at work around the house !?!?!)

OTHER ISSUES:
If you live near the ocean as we do, salt air can play havoc with metalwork inside and out, so to help minimise this, keep a few small packets of dessicant (silica gel) in your machine
case....** case ? then make some sort of cover !

Same applies in any damp or humid environment, keep your machine dry and dust free.

Budget for a proper full service every couple of years (more often if heavily used) and if you don't use your machine for a few years, be aware that old oil will dry out and combining with
dust and form a "clag" like glue (a**ther reason for some sort of cover, even a teatowel !)

FINALLY, A WORD ON THREAD:
If it is worth spending the time, energy and money on making something that you would like to give lasting enjoyment......use quality thread, .......it may seem to cost a little more at the
time, but the results, ease of use and added longevity will be worth the extra, and as a bonus, your tension troubles may be fewer and further between, because there is a more consistant diameter with good thread, and less compensating to be done by your tension plates and less thread breaks !

If you want any more help with this, just post back here, or, drop a line through the "Contact Us" page at www.bargainbox.com.au

Posted on Mar 09, 2008

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SOURCE: Bernina Aurora 430

I figured out the solution for this issue. It all has to do with the threading. And I mean literally follow the instructions word for word. Most importantly is the Bobbin thread. make sure to thread the bobbin through the case eyelet.

Posted on Mar 29, 2008

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SOURCE: Bernina Bernette 600 Deco embroidery machine

It could be that there is a loose piece of thread, or some fluff which is obstructing the tension gauge. Try blowing around the theading area (or even run the hoover pipe near it to see if you can **** it out). I cleared mine by folding a piece of non fluffy material and rubbing gently between the tension dial and machine.

Good luck

Posted on May 22, 2008

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SOURCE: husqvarna viking, interlude 435...unable to solve tension problem

Sounds like the tension unit is at fault. First check the bobbin tension by removing the bobbin case. Use a half-full to 3/4 full bobbin. Be sure it is threaded through the bobbin case with thread hanging straight down with tension spring on top. Tie the stitch plate to the end of the thread. If the thread pulls the bobbin out, the bobbin tension is too loose. If it does not move when "jiggling" the bobbin, it is too tight (which is not likely based on your description). Small screw (through an open hole) on the side of the bobbin case adjusts the tension of the bobbin case. Left for loose and Right for tighter. Otherwise, contact local authorized Husqvarna Viking dealer for their assistance. You can find the closest dealer at the Husqvarna Viking website - http://www.husqvarnaviking.com/us Good luck.

Posted on Sep 24, 2009

sburtenshaw1
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SOURCE: Shirring fabric?

When putting your shirring elastic on the bobbin, don't thread the elastic through the bobbin holder,adjust the stitch length longer,and loosen the tension, other wise if you want to put it through the bobbin holder you have to loosen the tension screw on the bobbin holder, and then you have to adjust it back for ordinary sewing,

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Okay, you've tried a lot of things. The question is this: is the thread snapping (where abouts in the path), or is it shredding at the needle? Here are a few more:

Remove the top thread, ALWAYS RAISE the presser foot, and rethread from the beginning.
Try different thread--perhaps a polyester thread like Isacord or Aurafil. (AVOID old or bargain bin thread.)
Try a different kind of needle (brand new needle!)--like a top-stitch, microtex, or embroidery. The top stitch needle has a larger scarf that will better protect the thread if shredding is the issue. (I use a special bobbin case that I've increased the tension for Isacord thread and I use the same thread in top and bobbin.) I also decrease the top tension a tad so the bobbin thread will not pull to the top. You may need to install brand-new needles several times on one quilt when they get dull.
Usually an 80 or 90 needle will work for FMQ through a fabric/batting sandwich.
Check that the needle's eye is the appropriate size for the thread (also a cause of shredding thread).
Set the upper tension at the midway point perhaps a bit looser for FMQ (this tension will probably need to be tweaked for your particular machine due to wear and age).
Use an FMQ foot and drop the feed dogs. A Supreme Slider (avlb on the internet) is very helpful in helping move the quilt while doing FMQ.
Work at a moderate but steady pace. I find a faster speed while FMQ gets me into trouble...like spots I can't get out of, overlapping stitches, or outside the quilt edge.

FWIW, I still get some skipped stitches with FMQ. Usually, it happens when I move the fabric too fast, especially around a curve. I have a tendency of speeding up while going around a curve that will cause skipped stitches or eyelashing.

I'm also wondering if there is something to do with the fabric and/or batting you are using...like is it Batik? Batik is very tightly woven and presents some particular challenges. The type of batting could be more dense, making it harder for the needle to penetrate the sandwich. Also, pulling or stretching the fabric can cause skipped stitches.

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Bernina 780 sews great, but thread in bobbin keeps messing up while doing embroidery,


Usually, if the thread is messing up under the fabric, it is a top thread issue. This is sometimes referred to as thread nesting or bird nesting.

Make sure you are using a brand new needle of the type specifically for embroidery. The eye needs to be large enough to easily accommodate the thread size and it needs to be a sharp needle. It may help to use a needle with a larger scarf that will protect the upper thread when piercing the fabric. If the thread is not protected sometimes it will hang up on the underside of the fabric when the needle withdraws from the fabric, causing thread loops, etc.

Remove the thread from the machine. ALWAYS RAISE the presser foot and rethread from the beginning. (This releases the tension disk so the thread seats completely.) Verify the thread path is correct.

Use a bobbin thread that is compatible with the embroidery thread. Check that the bobbin thread is smoothly wound on the bobbin, that the bobbin is turning the correct direction in the bobbin case, and the bobbin case tension is threaded properly.

Retest your embroidery on a small project. If you are still seeing thread bunching up under the fabric, you need to tighten the upper tension.

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I have a Bernina 145 S activa and I can't get my satin stitch to work , it brings the bobbin thread to the top , what can I do ?


Do you use stabilizer when you are satin stitching? I had a teacher who also hooped the fabric with a spring-loaded embroidery hoop (turned upside-down under the presser foot so the fabric is flat against the needle plate) that would keep the fabric taut.

It is not uncommon for bobbin thread to rise to the top when doing embroidery, satin stitch, etc., especially if you are using lighter-weight thread than usual. You would normally loosen the upper tension so the upper thread will sink into the fabric. However, if loosened upper tension is not doing enough, you may need to adjust bobbin tension when doing embroidery, applique... You might try tightening the bobbin tension just a smidgen to get the bobbin thread to stay below the fabric. Be sure to mark the bobbin case before making any adjustments so you can return it to the original setting when finished with the satin stitch. (If you do a lot of satin stitch or applique, etc., you may want to invest in a separate bobbin case that is set up only for doing that kind of work--saves having to alter the bobbin tension frequently.)

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How can I get my janome 11000 to work when embroidering? The bottom thread doesn't even show and top thread is always breaking.


The tension(s) may be too tight and could be threaded incorrectly. Start out with a brand new needle. Be sure to RAISE the presser foot when threading the upper thread. Consult the owner's manual to be sure it is threaded in the proper order. Test your stitch on a straight stitch and adjust it so both threads meet in the middle of the fabric. This setting works for straight stitch. However, usually the upper thread tension is loosened a bit for embroidery so the bottom thread will not show on the top of the fabric. Test it on some small embroidery patterns first until it's where you want it.

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Have a c-150 furtura ...i'm getting a bad stitch on the bobbin thread with both reg and embroidery stitching how do i fix this been in repair shop 3 times comes back with still bad stitch they use...


ANOTHER THING IS TO CHECK THE TENSION OF THE BOBBIN THREAD. MAKE SURE THE THREAD YOU ARE USING IS GOOD THREAD THAT DOESN'T PULL THE COTTON UP AND CAUSE A PUFF BALL ON THE NEEDLE. CHECK THE WAY YOU ARE LOADING THE TOP THREAD. ALWAYS DO THIS WHILE THE FOOT IS UP SO THAT YOU CAN CONTINUOUSLY GIVE TUGS THROUGH EACH OF THE GUIDES. THIS HAS TO BE LITTLE TENSION WITH NO SNAGS.

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Well, before I did all that (which may be necessary), I would take a piece of UNWAXED dental floss or hand embroidery floss and floss between the tension disks. You mentioned that you were suddenly breaking threads; there may be lint or loose threads or both seated between the disks, preventing the thread from seating properly. Then,
I would take the embroidery unit off and try to do some sewing with it, to see what results I got. If you can catch and bring the bobbin thread to the top with the top thread, I am doubtful that your timing is off. Sew a line of both straight stitch and zigzag stitches, and see if the stitches are balanced. If not, you may have a bobbin tension issue, and if so, most bobbin cases can be adjusted.

I think you'll find, though, that things will improve considerably when you have cleaned out the upper thread path and tension disks. Make sure when you do that, that your foot is raised, so that the disks are spread. Oh, a drop of sewing machine oil wouldn't hurt either--generally you should put a drop of oil for every 5 hours of embroidery.

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When I embroider with my Pfaff Creative 2 the top tension pulls bobbin thread up too much. I changed toe tension on top but it still does the same thing. How can this be fixed?


Suggest you do rethreading ,then test the stitches on straight stitch. If top stitches is loose you have to reduce the upper thread tension, if the bottom stitches is loose you have to increase the upper thread tension. Adjust accordingly till you can get a perfect straight stitch. If okay then you can continue your embroidery work.

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Once I set up my design card and select design, the needle moves


Hi, and welcome to FixYa. If I understand your problem, the needle goes in and out of your fabric, and the embroidery hoop moves, but the machine does not actually start embroidering your design right away....did I get it right? If have time to answer a few questions, I can give more accurate instructions.

  1. How long have you had your machine?
  2. How long have you been doing machine embroidery?
  3. Do you have a manual for your machine?
  4. Look at the back side of your design - do you see lots of bobbin thread, or hardly any?
  5. Have you taken lessons for your machine or for embroidery?
  6. When your design is finished, can you where the machine skipped stitches?
Here a couple of things you can try (if you have already):

  • Make sure you use an embroidery needle, not a universal. In most cases, you should use a size 90. Change your needle after each project. A blunt need can cause your machine to skip embroidery stitches anywhere in the design.
  • Rewind or replace your bobbin. Make sure you use bobbin thread in your bobbin when you embroider - it is thinner and gives you better tension. If pre-wound embroidery bobbins are compatible with your machine, I recommend that you try one and compare the result with designs sewn using the bobbin thread you've been using.
  • Normally, you should loosen your tension a little bit when you embroider. When you look at the back side of your embroidery, you should see more bobbin thread than embroidery thread.
I owned an embroidery business for several years, and I have six different embroidery machines of my own - so with a little more info from you, I think I can help.


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Pfaff creative half-speed and thread breaks


YIKES - what a nightmare! We can approach your problem two ways, but to determine whether the problem is your machine or your design, I need to know if you have been using one design, or if you've tried to embroidery several different designs and are getting threadbreaks about every 10,000 stitches, no matter what design, needle, thread, and bobbin you use.

Here are some rules you should following whenever you embroider on your machine:

  • Change your needle and insert a newly wound bobbin every time you start a new project
  • Use a size Embroidery Needle - size 90 for most projects
  • Check the backside of your design - you should see alot more bobbin thread than embroidery thread. If you don't see enough bobbin thread, loosen your top tension. If the tension is set automatically, change it manually.
  • Your design might be the problem. Some designs have WAY to many stitches. If you haven't already, choose several different designs with different styles - for example, a monogram, a design that is mostly satin stitches, a design that is mostly straight stitches, and so on. Sew one or all over and over so you determine whether your thread will continue to break about every 10,000 stitches.
I hope this helps. Machine embroidery is so much fun once you've learned and practiced. I hope to hear from you - machine embroidery is not hard to learn, but there is a lot to learn. Thanks.







If you want to get right to work, skip the troubleshooting and answer as many questions as you can or have time for. It is possible that your problem is the design and not the machine. Try one suggestion at time so you what helps and what doesn't. Questions first:

  1. Is the machine brand new, or new to you?
  2. Do you have your manual?
  3. Do you been embroidering by machine for a while, or are you just learning?
  4. Does this problem occur with every design you sew, or is it one particular design that you are having trouble with?
  5. How many total stitches are in the design you are trying ot sew?
  6. What kind of thread are you using (rayon, poly, sewing?)
  7. Did you buy the machine from a dealer, and if so, does it have a warranty?
  8. Have you taken lessons on how to use your machine for both sewing and embroidery?
  9. Are you familiar with embroidery backings, needles, and threads and how to choose which to use for a particular project?


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