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Posted on Jan 02, 2017
The flame rollout sensor is a rather important safety feature that ideally only trips when there's an overtemperture outside of the combustion chamber. I'd encourage you to get a better quality tech in ASAP to check for a cracked heat exchanger, gas overpressure, restricted airflow (changed the filter lately?), maybe a blocked condensate drain if this is a high efficiency furnace. If the sensor was replaced and it's still tripping, you've got a potentially dangerous overheating issue that you don't want to try to bypass.
Posted on Mar 20, 2009
it means the flame is rolling out..... generally indicates a blockage in heat exchanger, or flue pipe, or combustion fan is not turning a correct rpm.
Posted on Oct 08, 2009
SOURCE: Carrier 48GP rollout switch code
You need to find the rollout switch and see if it has a manual reset button on it or not. There are 3 styles of rollout controls. One is a disc type that mounts behind the burner ends, there may be more that one,possibly one on each side of the burner tray. This style rollout is usually manual resetting. It most likely will be black or silver in color and usually is about the size of a penny in diameter and about 1/2" in thickness with 2 wires going into it and a red push type button in the middle. The next style is similar two the first as it is manual resetting also, but this rollout uses a small copper capillary tube that runs just behind the burner ends and is mounted to the burner tray. If you follow this tube it will lead you to the manual reset button which is most likely mounted below the burner tray. The last style rollout is what they call a fuseable link, this is mounted behind a burner end and looks like a resister used in electronics, it is about 3/4" long and about 3/16" in length and is silver in color. It is mounted in a porcelain mount. This style is not resettable it has to be replaced with one of the same temperature rating. You would need to go to a Carrier/Bryant dealer to get the right one. Either take it with you or bring the model and serial number of your furnace.
The most important thing about rollouts is that there is a reason it opened up(went faulty). The reason they trip or open up is due to the burner flames are rolling back out of the burner box and getting the rollouts hot enough to trip or open up. This is telling you there is a serious issue with your furnace that needs to be found and repaired. There are a couple of things that is causing this. They are that your exhaust is not venting properly. Your exhaust venting could be restricted with whatever. You need to pull your venting off and look for restrictions all the way from your heater to the end of the chimney. The next thing it could be is that your heat exchanger is cracked enough to allow positve air pressure on the exhaust system when the indoor blower fan is running. You can check this out yourself by watching the burner flames when the indoor fan comes on. If the heat exchanger is cracked enough the burner flames will flutter or move back toward you when the indoor fan comes on causing the rollout to trip or open up. Most manufacturers have a 20 year warranty on the heat exchanger(parts only,you pay the labor cost). Depending on the age and condition of your furnace it may not pay to have the heat exchanger replaced.
I hope I was able to steer you in the right direction!! Good luck!!
Posted on Nov 28, 2009
dirty flame sensor try cleaning it or there is air in the line
Posted on Jan 02, 2010
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EACH OF THE FOLLOWING STATUS CODES IS A TWO DIGIT NUMBER WITH THE FIRST
DIGIT DETERMINED BY THE NUMBER OF SHORT FLASHES AND THE SECOND DIGIT BY
THE NUMBER OF LONG FLASHES.
11 NO PREVIOUS CODE - Stored status code is erased automatically after 72
hours. On RED LED boards stored status codes can also be erased when power
(115 VAC or 24 VAC) to control is interrupted.
12 BLOWER ON AFTER POWER UP (115 VAC or 24 VAC) -Blower runs for 90
seconds, if unit is powered up during a call for heat (R-W closed) or R-W opens
during blower on-delay.
13 LIMIT CIRCUIT LOCKOUT - Lockout occurs if the limit or flame rollout switch is
open longer than 3 minutes.
- Control will auto reset after three hours. - Refer to #33.
14 IGNITION LOCKOUT - Control will auto-reset after three hours. Refer to #34.
21 GAS HEATING LOCKOUT - Control will NOT auto reset.
Check for: - Mis-wired gas valve -Defective control (valve relay)
22 ABNORMAL FLAME-PROVING SIGNAL - Flame is proved while gas valve is
de-energized. Inducer will run until fault is cleared. Check for:
- Leaky gas valve - Stuck-open gas valve
23 PRESSURE SWITCH DID NOT OPEN Check for:
- Obstructed pressure tubing. - Pressure switch stuck closed.
24 SECONDARY VOLTAGE FUSE IS OPEN Check for:
- Short circuit in secondary voltage (24VAC) wiring.
31 PRESSURE SWITCH DID NOT CLOSE OR REOPENED - If open longer than
five minutes, inducer shuts off for 15 minutes before retry. Check for:
- Excessive wind - Proper vent sizing - Defective inducer motor
- Low inducer voltage (115VAC) - Defective pressure switch
- Inadequate combustion air supply - Restricted vent
- Disconnected or obstructed pressure tubing
- Low inlet gas pressure (if LGPS used)
If it opens during blower on-delay period, blower will come on for the selected
33 LIMIT CIRCUIT FAULT - Indicates a limit, or flame rollout is open. Blower will
run for 4 minutes or until open switch remakes whichever is longer. If open
longer than 3 minutes, code changes to lockout #13. If open less than 3 minutes
status code #33 continues to flash until blower shuts off. Flame rollout switch
requires manual reset. Check for: - Restricted vent
- Proper vent sizing - Loose blower wheel - Excessive wind
- Dirty filter or restricted duct system.
- Defective blower motor or capacitor. - Defective switch or connections.
- Inadequate combustion air supply (Flame Roll-out Switch open).
34 IGNITION PROVING FAILURE - Control will try three more times before lockout
#14 occurs. If flame signal lost during blower on-delay period, blower will come
on for the selected blower off-delay. Check for: - Control ground continuity
- Flame sensor must not be grounded
- Oxide buildup on flame sensor (clean with fine steel wool).
- Proper flame sense microamps (.5 microamps D.C. min., 4.0 - 6.0 nominal).
- Gas valve defective or gas valve turned off - Manual valve shut-off
- Defective Hot Surface Ignitor
- Low inlet gas pressure
- Inadequate flame carryover or rough ignition
- Green/Yellow wire MUST be connected to furnace sheet metal
45 CONTROL CIRCUITRY LOCKOUT Auto-reset after one hour lockout due to;
- Gas valve relay stuck open - Flame sense circuit failure
- Software check error
Reset power to clear lockout. Replace control if status code repeats.
If status code recall is needed, briefly remove then reconnect one main limit wire to display
stored status code. On RED LED boards do not remove power or blower door before initiating
status code recall. After one status code recall is completed component test will occur.
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