My 2011 ram big horn 4x4 automatic indicator won't go to drive function. Goes to 4.engine light scans a po882 and po883 code. Tipm problem reset to fix?

MK49 jeep 2010. usa answers me...
well buy the service manual or rent it

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there is no secrets here on this topic at all
just the lack of no book in hands or PDF
is this car USA spec car? not told country of VIN
so all I can do is tell you how OURS works,
for sure this simple thing (well is not simple like in 1990 and before) (alarms added and more)

not scanning the PCM first is failure #1
the MK49
the TIPM Tipm the SM shows a relay deep inside TIPM for horn ,but is vague o n location.
under hood, totally integrated power module.
has 3 honk paths or more.

here is the path horn fully.(path1 horn button)

horn button pressed or switch here bad.
goes to clock spring (not bad)
then to cluster brain,(honk commands)
to TIPM brain, via fuse F28 there.
and TIPM DRIVES THE HORN directly.

or an alarm trips the horn. visa CAN_bus network commands, and again not scanning , the obd2 port you will never learn why it fails.
chirp mode (keyfob decoder), alarm or the horn button fails. 1,2,3,
3 ways to fail, and more.

not scanning the OBD2 PCM port is why you do not
now what is wrong.
B2336???? 2339 horn switch stuck DTC> amazing no?
com fails if any kind (DTC)
the horn also has chirp logic (disable it is wise)

"Using a transmitter programmed to the Sentry Key Remote Entry Module, the status of the horn chirp may be toggled by the customer."


or the alarms on the car is failing and sending horn honk commands via Can-bus network; Unnnn codes?
CAN_BUS B and C must be error free (or LIN bus)

no alarms , no chirp mode junk enabled.
here is no internal schematics of the TIPM at all
so how it directly drives the horn is not shown.

scan it first. not last. or go broke fast. guessing wrong.

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• Find your battery under the hood and disconnect the black/negative cable.
• Wait 20 minutes for the power reserve to expire. The RAM 1500 check engine light should reset automatically during this time.
• Now, just reconnect the black/negative cable. You're ready to get back to work.

If your check engine light is still on after you've gone through these steps, you may need to drive for 50 miles or so in order to reset the computer. If this short driv

did you even look first in the fuse box, or just want us to?
ok did, there is none.

if it has one it marked horn.
not all jeeps have a fuse here, (traditional)
some have an magic electronic current limit on it.
that just works and takes no user actions. ever....
we've used these in industry since the 70s, and is just catching on in the car world. (same on military guns and fuses hate each other, boom , pop no joy, )
did YOU scan the pcm first. (NO)
did you clean off the rust on the bottom of the horn bracket next.
usa horn has 1 horn
outside is 2. (top cause of horn fail , rust near fender at horn)

so my wild guess is you are in USA right. yeah, matters .
the owners manual shows no horn fuse, just read it for you.
The fsm shows, NO FUSE. strike2.
so the FSM schematic shows, the horn driver on page 8w-13-10
found it. its not a FUSE !!!
TIPM page 16 shows the TIPM has no FUSE.
if the TIPM main power fuse blows, massive failures all over car
that mean like i said, the TIPM uses and electronic fuse
it called current regulator, if you short it out, it roll back current
all free, no parts to change and cures its self automatically, with the fault is cleared. Its not a fuse, its current limiter.

so lets play your game the correct way
you say "why is my horn dead. all else works"
I say,
1:scan it first. the scan tool tells you what failed.
2: then tests the horn by hand, (bench testing, )
3:or clean its ground then hot wire it. beeps now.
4: if this all fails the dealer can honk the horn via there fancy factory scan tools, (we cant) and if fails honk the check voltage to the horn if 12vdc the horn is bad ,if 0v the TIPM is bad.
end story.

this a new digital horn, (not actual horn) but the control
are digital, that means the switch for the horn is digital
and the alarms sends , a communication on the network
to sound the horn.
if the TIPM hears the button or the alarm active (network sent)
the TIMP then activates the horn driver electrons
if it cant it records warnings on the scan tool called DTCs.

so short answer
1: get car serviced
2: get car scanned,
there is NO FUSE.
Yes, everyone says check fuses first. but not this car and not that circuit. its and exception to the rule.

What kind of alarm? Security? Possibly could have blown the TIPM. Check fuses first. Then check codes.

Transmission is in limp mode.

1. Check the control wire to the Totally Integrated Power Module (TIPM). The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) should send power out on the Light Green wire from pin 18 of the C4 connector to the Totally Integrated Power Module (TIPM) at key on. If there is a problem in the relay circuits, solenoid circuits or pressure switch circuits, it will then remove the voltage from the Light Green wire to take power away from the transmission.

2. When the PCM requests the circuit to be energized by the TIPM, the PCM is monitoring the return voltage from the TIPM on pins 19 and 28 of the C4 connector. Tech Tips: The Totally Integrated Power Module (TIPM) is a combination Power Distribution Center and control module, replacing the Integrated Power Module (IPM) and Front Control Module (FCM). It's replaced as an assembly.

the schematic does use numbers. sure but there is NONE.
why not ask how to diagnose it and not guess?
here ill look at alldata.com (so can you)
prior to about 2007, there was a horn fuse, not now.

OPEN hood, see that TIPM box, with zillions of fuses and relays.
BINGO. its all there on one box, thus its name .

it also is a slave computer to the can-bus masters .
Ill quote the FSM now.
"to diagnose the horn system requires the use of a scan tool"
do you know why?
ill explain, the button is pressed, the Cluster brain sees that and sends
a command (serial CAN-bus data) to TIPM box, it receives, it
and activates the horn driver module (be that a relay or transistor)
and the horn honks. (that module has no socket)

if you get COMM errors, then the horn can fail
even with all horn parts good end to end.!!!!
see? all that magic, with distributed processing?
Allen Turning with be shocked. (or eat his apple, RIP)

bad news, the horn relay is soldered into the TIPM
that cant stop me , I have a pro soldering station. (since 1975)

DTCs (scans)
U0141?

all this fancy junk started in 2007 , making scan tools mandatory

ok took, me awhile to find your answer, (due to blurry schematics online)
there is NO HORN FUSE, so your ASSUMPTION is wrong.
the TIPM fuse main power is ALL, to IT, is all the power it needs
to drive the horn and other things, and that is not blown because the TIPM goes dead
and with that vast other things, bringing us full circle back to square 1.

why not scan it first, like your ASE pro will do, step one.

the horn button is dead< and the sounds from horn via the antithieft system is dead too? (mine are defeated on fob clicks, by me.,,)

on my car only the driver can honk. horn.



does car run perfect (other shoe drops) Head lights. not dim

cluster battery lamp not showing charge system failure?

first check fuses , the one labeled horn is top choice.

on mine, its fuse m22 and m23

in the underhood.

Totally Integrated Power Module oi TIPM



did you sCAn it after fuse, if the PCM sees errors to the TIPM above

that can in fact make lots of things fail. so Scanning is always #2.

if you see comm errors,. you will not fix this. get it serviced.

or reset every thing and pray.



my wranger has 2 horns, so its near impossible for both to fail .

(actual horn) but there are many submodels of wrangler and was not stated in your post which one, mines an X.body 2 door.





you can do 2 things, to cars, gue$$ or tests. and danger (air bags)

what do you want to do?

you dont need us to guess. right? our guess is as good as dice roll.

use a voltmeter (walfart $10)

touch the black meter lead to base, of horn (this is called ground)

then the other meter red lead to the horn pin.

honk the horn. if its not 12vdc now, then the problem is up stream.

move the black lead to the car body and keep red same.

and bot 12v now? yes, then the horn base is rusting clean it.

fixed now.

ok got 0v, again? its upstream. problem .



the horn systems are now complex , no more just 3 parts.

switch, relay and horn. ,

it now is digitally controlled. , that is correct.

the horn switch is a digital. device. ONLY.

Flow of logic:

the horn switch closes.

the 2 wire close and goes to the dash cluster controller. (brain)

this brain sees the switch closes and sends a CAN-buss network

serial command (called comms) to the TIPM

the TIPM then sends 12vdc to the horns, via fuse 23.

m22 is right

m23 is left horn fuses





on mine the relay can not be changed,

open the TIMP box, mine is hinged to front, dumb idea if ever.

the under that lid are all fuses names and relay names.

the words like like micky mouse wrote them , weak, and blurry.

on mine, there is no horn relay. (must be a high power transistor driver in the TIPM electronics board.



so now lets play dealer or ASE shop. just one example.

he sees all horns dead, full time. all ways from sunday.

he checks fuse m22, m23.

when honking, the horns do not get 12vdc to them.

he hot wires one horn (disonnected) it honks loudly.

ok horn is good.



he then checks with his scan tool that the horn switch is in fact working and sees the CAN-buss sends out the command.

to honk, it does.

but why does it not honk, ?

he then checks TIPM programming to make sure its not scrambled.

it\'s not, so the TIPM is bad.

he pulls battery neg (oops lost nav and radio codes ! read FSM on this)

and then removes the TIPM and puts it back reseating it.

and retests. it fails. (hope and luck can happen)

but it didnt.

the TIPM is bad.





how is that.?

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These details will help.

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On these issue, there are few solved help links for troubleshooting the issue easily.-------

Click the link below: ---

No 4x4 light on dash?

http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/12/no-4x4-light-on-dash.html

-----------

4X4 Truck makes roaring noise in the front end?

http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/4x4-truck-makes-roaring-noise-in-front.html

-------------

Car will not go into 4WD high or 4WD low?

http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/car-will-not-go-into-4wd-high-or-4wd.html

--------------

No 4x4 light on dash?

http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/12/no-4x4-light-on-dash.html

------------

4 wheel drive system will not disengage?

http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/01/4-wheel-drive-system-will-not-disengage.html

----------

4WD light is flashing and beeping? NO 4WD high?

http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/02/4wd-light-is-flashing-and-beeping-no.html

----------

2002 Jeep Wrangler: 4WD Idiot Light is ON?

http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/06/2002-jeep-wrangler-4wd-idiot-light-is.html

----------

Traction control switch will not engage on 4WD High or Low

http://whoisbyme.blogspot.com/2012/10/traction-control-switch-will-not-engage.html

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http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/10/4wd-light-flashing-and-4wd-will-engage.html

------------

2008 Toyota Tundra: 4x4 Wheel Drive Light is Flashing?

http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/05/2008-toyota-tundra-4x4-wheel-drive.html

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http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/4x4-front-differential-will-not-engage.html

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http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/4x4-will-not-engage-on-ford-f150.html

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Dodge Ram 4x4 light keeps flashing

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Ford 4x4 front wheels will not engage?

http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/ford-4x4-front-wheels-will-not-engage.html

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These details will help.

Thanks.

On these issue,there are few solved help links for troubleshooting the issue easily.-------

Click the link below:---
No 4x4 light on dash?

http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/12/no-4x4-light-on-dash.html

-----------
4X4 Truck makes roaring noise in the front end?

http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/4x4-truck-makes-roaring-noise-in-front.html

-------------
Car will not go into 4WD high or 4WD low?

http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/car-will-not-go-into-4wd-high-or-4wd.html

--------------
No 4x4 light on dash?

http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/12/no-4x4-light-on-dash.html

------------
4 wheel drive system will not disengage?

http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/01/4-wheel-drive-system-will-not-disengage.html

----------
4WD light is flashing and beeping? NO 4WD high?

http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/02/4wd-light-is-flashing-and-beeping-no.html

----------
2002 Jeep Wrangler: 4WD Idiot Light is ON?

http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/06/2002-jeep-wrangler-4wd-idiot-light-is.html

----------

Traction control switch will not engage on 4WD High or Low

http://whoisbyme.blogspot.com/2012/10/traction-control-switch-will-not-engage.html

-----------

4WD light flashing and 4WD will engage after few minutes

http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/10/4wd-light-flashing-and-4wd-will-engage.html

------------
2008 Toyota Tundra: 4x4 Wheel Drive Light is Flashing?

http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/05/2008-toyota-tundra-4x4-wheel-drive.html

----------
4x4 front differential will not engage the axle on ford?

http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/4x4-front-differential-will-not-engage.html

-------
4x4 will not engage on Ford F150? http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/4x4-will-not-engage-on-ford-f150.html

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Dodge Ram 4x4 light keeps flashing 4X4 LOW LIGHT IS FLASHING ON DASH

http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/09/dodge-ram-4x4-light-keeps-flashing.html

----------
Ford 4x4 front wheels will not engage?

http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/ford-4x4-front-wheels-will-not-engage.html

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These details will help.

Thanks.