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Vaillant combi boiler,dirty water comes out of hot and cold taps ,just been serviced by british gas,could you tell me the problem

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Hi ,

Can you please tell me the model of the vaillant, and the approx age?

I can solve this problem

I await your reply

Thanks

Steve :)

Posted on Jul 16, 2009

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