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My needle thread keeps bunching and llooping on the underside of the fabric. I have re-threaded the needle, adjusted the tension and cleaned out the bobbin case.

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  • suebbrk Jul 15, 2009

    Thank you Mohammed387. I tried the re-threading, it did not help. I checked my model # again and it is actually 385 16221300.
    I have owned this machine for several years and have not had this problem in the past.
    I did however break a needle while sewing recently. Coulkd that have anything to do with it? I removed the broken needle from the bobbin case area.
    If you have any further suggestions, I would be most appreciative.
    Sue

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If you getting loops on the bottom of your material, you need to re-thread the top of your machine. I say this because it is very rare when you will have to adjust the bobbin tension. But if you must, looking straight down at the bobbin as a clock- at 6:00 is the bobbin tension adjustment- lefty lucy, righty tighty. Hope this helps.





Make sure the needle is inserted in the machine properly- a good rule of thumb is the flat side of the needle should go to the opposite side of the last thread guide. Also make sure the machine is threaded correct
There is no standard tension for any machine to be set at. They start at four when they are brand new, however, after years and years the springs become compressed. You could start at four and then play around with it from there. If you are getting loops underneath the material, you are threading the machine incorrectly.

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Needle stitch fine. Bobbin stitch loops.


First, try a brand new needle.

Second, consider using a better quality thread. By all means, AVOID old or bargain bin threads. Coats & Clark used to be a standard, but thread quality has improved over the past few years, so you may want to check out other brands like Aurafil, Superior, Isacord, etc. Also, cotton wrapped polyester thread releases thread lint that contributes to build-up of gunk in the machine. Some sewists have noted that they experience more sewing issues when using C&C threads. However, some machines will do better with certain thread brands than others, so some experimentation may be beneficial.

Third, check the stitch on your sample again. Generally, when thread loops appear on the underside of the fabric, it is the upper thread that is the problem. If loopy threads appear on the top of the fabric, it is the bobbin thread that is the issue. You can even use a different color in the top to help distinguish which thread is the problem.

Fourth, when threading the upper thread, Always Raise the Presser Foot during the threading process so the tension disk is released and the thread can seat properly. "Bird nesting" occurs when the thread is not seated in the tension disk.
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Fifth, when the upper thread appears on the underside of the fabric, the upper thread tension is too loose. If the bobbin thread appears on the top of the fabric, the tension thread is too tight (or the bobbin thread is loose). Start out with the upper tension set at the midway point and tweak it from that point. The tension is ideal when both upper and bobbin threads meet in the middle of the fabric.

Also, remember that tension is not static--a tension setting for chiffon will most likely not work on cotton or denim. Get comfortable adjusting the tension to suit the project you are sewing.

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You didn't explain the symptoms. Is the thread bunching, looping, knotting under the fabric? Is the bobbin thread rising to the top of the fabric?

If it is bunching under the fabric, it is probably what is called thread nesting or bird nesting. There are several fixes, sometimes more than one fix is required to resolve the issue.

Be sure to clean under the needle plate, around the bobbin, and the feed dogs. If the machine has instructions for oiling, follow the directions using a fresh, good quality sewing machine oil and apply only 1-2 drops each spot.

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Best practice is to use the same thread in both the upper and bobbin. Also, avoid old or bargain bin thread. Spend an extra couple of dollars to reduce frustration and increase success with your machine. If you wish, you may use two different colors of thread to test so you can easily determine what is happening with the tension.

Remove the thread from the machine. RAISE the presser foot and rethread from the beginning--the thread needs to be seated firmly in the tension disk. Verify that the correct thread path is followed (consult the owner's manual).

Set the upper tension to the midway point between high & low numbers (this is the factory standard and is a good place to start, but every machine is different and may need adjustment).

Confirm that the bobbin is installed in the bobbin case (turning the correct direction) and that the bobbin case is threaded properly.

Before beginning to stitch, hand rotate the handwheel one rotation and pull the bobbin thread to the top of the fabric. Then, gently hold the thread tails in the left hand and slowly begin to stitch.

Test.

If thread is bunching, looping under the fabric, the upper tension is too loose. Tighten it and retest. On most machines, the lower the tension number, the looser the tension.

If the bobbin thread is rising to the top of the fabric, the upper tension is too tight. Loosen the upper tension and retest.

Keep adjusting and testing until it is where you want it. Generally, tension is correct when both threads (upper & bobbin) meet in the middle of the fabric. FWIW, tension is static and should be tested and readjusted every time a new project is begun. The needle, thread, and fabric will affect the tension, so it is important to get comfortable adjusting the tension.

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Sounds like "thread nesting" also called "bird nesting." Usually, it is a result of incorrect threading, incorrect tension, or the thread not being properly seated in the tension disk.

Remove the thread.
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RAISE the presser foot and rethread the machine from the beginning making sure the thread path is correct.
Set the upper tension to the midway point between low & high numbers.
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The correct tension is achieved when the upper and bobbin threads meet in the middle of the fabric. If upper thread is looping under the fabric, the upper tension is too loose. If the bobbin thread is appearing on the top of the fabric, the upper tension is too tight. If it is difficult to determine what is happening with tension, try using a different color thread (but ALWAYS the same type & weight) in the bobbin as what is used as upper thread.

Tension is static--it needs to be adjusted whenever a new project is begun because the needle/thread/fabric combination will affect the tension. A sewist should become comfortable with adjusting the upper tension on a piece of the scrap fabric before actually beginning to sew the project.

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Hi there.

When ever you have bunching thread like that it can be a few things.

1. Not properly drawing the threads back under the foot when beginning a seam (grasp both and gently draw them to the back of the machine when starting.)

2. Your feed dogs could be down or not adjusted well.

3. Your top tension is too loose for the fabric or top thread is not threaded properly. (this is usually the problem)

4. bad or wrong needle for the fabric.

Thread can be an issue as well, it does age and get frayed causing problems.

First make sure you test on a scrap of the same fabric. Tighten your upper tension to see if that helps. If not RAISE your pressure foot and read thread the top thread making sure the thread sits in the uptake lever. Try again on your scrap.

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