13 yr Electrlux.Cuts off if hose plugs in.Says Bag Full-bag empty
My model is 13 years old and has never had a problem until today. The Canister motor works fine until you plug the hose into it and then it goes off and the ''bag full'' light comes on. The bag is new and empty.We check the hose for a clog and find nothing.
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ok, you need to bypass the auto shut of. Put the vac on it's side and pull off the sliders on both sides.Carefully pull machine apart.lift the front of the piece that hold you bag.Underneathe there is a clear tube plugged in to a round thing on switch area.Simply pull the tube out of the rouind trhing.This will allow you to fillthe bag without shut dow.Just make sure your bag doesn't get too full....Chris
Probably a clog in the hose. Disconnect the hose at both ends. Drop a coin in one end and allow it to fall through and out the other end. If it doesn't, the hose is blocked. Plug the end of the hose into the blower of the vacuum and turn it on. Make sure the other end of the hose is in a plastic bag. This should clear the clog.
Also, check the power nozzle behind the brush. Something may have gotten caught in the elbow near where the wand plugs in.
A full bag will also cause this, or if there's a lot of fine dust in your area, clogged pores in the bag will act the same as a full bag.
I think its time for a new vacuum cleaner.....sounds like the circuitry is malfunctioning or you have an airflow problem that is tricking the vacuum into thinking the bags full. check all hoses and airways for blockage
There are six different reasons a vacuum can lose suction, a plugged vacuum hose, bad motor, full vacuum bag, or cracked or damage hoses. Purchasing a vacuum cleaner can be a costly expense while repairing the suction on the unit can be virtually free. Most suction loss problems on a vacuum can be easily fixed or remedied with common house hold tools and very little technical expertise.
If your vacuum cleaner losses suction, the first and easiest solution is to check the bag. If the vacuum cleaner bag is full suction will be greatly reduced and the unit will become ineffective. A vacuum cleaner works by passing air through the bag fibers leaving dirt and debris behind inside the bag. If the refuse bag becomes full, airflow is restricted, limiting the amount of air passing through the vacuum bag resulting in loss of suction. When replacing the vacuum bag always consult your owners manual to insure that the vacuum bag seals with the vacuum inlet hose. If your vacuum cleaner bag is not tightly sealed to the vacuum inlet hose you will decrease the air flow through the bag resulting in loss of suction.
The second and sometimes most common reason for loss of suction on a vacuum cleaner is a plugged vacuum hose. If the hose becomes plugged, air flow will become restricted. To unplug a vacuum hose detach it from the machine and inspect the inside. If there is a restriction in the hose, remove it with your fingers and replace the hose onto the unit. If the hose is long and the debris is hard to get too, a broom handle or other long object can be passed through the hose to dislodge the debris. Most vacuum cleaners contain more that one suction hose, so make sure to check each one by process of elimination. Another area that can become easily plugged on a vacuum cleaner is under the lower base of the unit by the roller brush. Large debris can get caught in this area and restrict air flow to the hose.
If your vacuum refuse bag is not full and the suction hoses are not plugged the next thing to check is the condition of the hoses. Many hoses are made from plastic which can easily tear or crack. If your vacuum cleaner shows signs of wear or are cracked they need to be replaced. Even the smallest hole in a vacuum hose can leak enough air to greatly diminish the suction potential of your unit. Replace your vacuum cleaner parts with OEM parts from the original manufacturer to ensure the tightest fit.
Most vacuum cleaners contain filters. Filters are used as a last line of defense to remove dust and smaller debris particles before the air is recycled back into the environment. If vacuum cleaner filters become dirty or plugged they also can decrease the amount of air traveling through the unit. Some filters can be easily rinsed with water whereas others need to be replaced. It is important to check your owners manual before rinsing a vacuum filter.
The last and probably least common problem for a vacuum cleaner to loose suction is a bad or failing vacuum motor. Over time vacuum motors lose power due to worn carbon brushes or long term damage. A vacuum cleaners worst enemy is moisture. If water or moisture is sucked into the vacuum motor it will greatly diminish the amount of suction the unit has. Replacing a vac motor can be a costly and time consuming ordeal. In some cases, replacing a vacuum motor can outweigh the cost of buying a new vacuum. Vacuum suction is measured in water lift which can easily be measured by using a water lift gauge. If the water lift measured in inches, falls below half the original water lift specifications for the unit, it is time to replace your motor. Most vacuum cleaner repair shops carry this type of equipment and can easily tell you if it is time for a new vac motor.
I would say that you have a slight clog in the hose or in the power nozzle somewhere. The full bag indicator is just a guage that will indicate full when it feels like it's lost suction. Example: If you were to take the hose and cover it with your hand, you'll notice that bag full indicator will show full.
To check and see where the clog in the vacuum is, remove the wands and floor attachment so you just have the hose on the vacuum cleaner. With just the hose attached, turn the vacuum cleaner on. Does it still show a full bag? If yes, then remove the hose completely from the vacuum cleaner so it's just the canister part by itself and turn on the vacuum again. If the bag full indicator is now showing an empty bag, this means that you have a clog in your hose.
If the bag full indicator displayed an empty bag when you had the hose on the vacuum, but shows a full bag when you have the wands and floor tool attached, this means that you have a clog in the vacuum either in the wands, or the floor attachment.
For removing clogs from the hose, the quickest way is to just purchase a plumbers snake at your local hardware store, and run the snake through the hose until you find the clog. You may also take a high pressure hose and spray it down the hose until the clog is cleared, but if you use a water hose, MAKE SURE the hose is 100% dry before you use it again.
Also that bag full indicator can be adjusted if you are getting a lot of suction power and it still shows full.
I hope that these suggestions helped you diagnosis your Miele canister to figure out why the indicator showed full. If this helped you please rate my repair helpful.
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Your machine is probably clogged, look through the wands, look in the bottom attachment, to see if there is anything stuck there. You can also drop a marble through the hose itself to see if anything is stuck there as well. To unclog the hose try holding the attachment end of the hose were you would normally plug the hose in. ( the goal is to **** the clog out the way it came in).
sounds like you have the plastic bodied canister. the controll valve inside is bad. I usually just disconnect those to avoid future problems. you may want to take the vacuum to a repair shop though becuase they are a pain to get apart and get back in one piece.
http://geeksquad.fixya.com/ThreadView.aspx?prdid=109459&thid=699656 Model 116 hose clog? Posted by rfrazelle on Jun 23, 2008 My old canister model 116 followed with numbers 2839580 marked Kenmore 3.9 with power-mate, worked fine until the bag got overly full. I have changed the bag, cleaned the filter, and removed a nasty hair/fur/dust clog :-p from the lower metal tube of the power mate. It now has very weak suction and won't pick up anything. I suspect a clog in the grey plastic flexible tubing attached to the canister but cannot get it apart. Advice? RJ Hello, I would advise you to ALWAYS to FIRST UNPLUG YOUR VACUUM before beginning any service procedure. Kenmore 22313 Bagged Canister Vacuum. The best way to find a clog in an electric hose is to use a steel ball or a large marble to place inside the hose and to let it so threw as far as it can to determine where the hose clog is. Once you have determined where the hose clog is then you can use a small end of a broom handle of take an old wire coat hanger and place a hook on the end and try to pull the clog out of the electric hose – the electric hose is very expensive so try not to damage the hose in any way, shape or form. Or another way is that id you have another canister vacuum you can try to pull the clog apart by using two vacuums turned on and running. If you are successful then run the round marble or steel ball thru the hose again and the clog should be cleared. http://www.sears.com/Customer Service1-800-4-MY-HOME1-800-469-4663 Thanks, Don the Vac Man Go Ahead. Use Us.