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Scooter speed control

The tiller assembly is new. Everything works except the speed control. are there any reasons other than a duff pot?

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Hi, well besides a duff pot , looking at the wiring ,,,check the connectors..

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hi, ok that's sounds about right, the speed pot hat is attached to the throttle lever is normally about 5K in value.

Posted on Feb 19, 2010

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You will more than likely need a new speed pot but some are connected to the throttle pot as well so it could be that which is at fault. Could also be wiring or worst case, control box but this is unlikely.

Posted on Mar 18, 2010

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Hi. This sounds difficult. I have had a few scooters move slowly forward or in reverse, but not both. Normally if the speed pot ( wig wag ) is not exactly in the central position, they can do this.
It is possible for a scooter to have your problem, if the speed lever is binding or rubbing on the housing. Normally the lever is returned to the middle by a spring around the speed pot shaft. If this spring is loose or broken, then this could also cause the problem. Sometimes a small spot of oil or grease will help.
To check the speed lever is in the middle, slowly move the lever for forward untill you hear the brake solenoid release. Now release the lever and slowly pull it for reverse untill you hear the brake solenoid release. Make sure that the speed lever moves the same amount for forward as it does for reverse. If not adjust it with the key off.
If you get the machine to drive properly, then change the controller to see if it is OK.
As for the beeping, a lot of machines will go into an error mode if the speed lever is not in the central position when you turn the key on. This is a safety precausion.
Good luck. Neil.

Posted on Jun 07, 2010

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Hi,
Please don't worry this can be easily solved.This is an error.Technically calling it has Flash Code #7
Flash Code #7 is caused due to Throttle Pot or Speed Pot Error

Click here to download the repair manual PDF.

Since the steps are diagrammatic,i will give you the PDF,Please follow the PDF.The solution is in page no 16.

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Posted on Aug 26, 2010

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me tool time you checked or changed about everything but did you check the electric brake. Sounds like the brake is not working or is working intermittentaly. The controller needs to get the right reading from the brake or the scooter will not go and when you release the throttle the brake should engage immediately. I can't give you a well thats the answer but you should at least ohm out the brake. If you can call rascal Company on Monday and ask for tech support they can give you what the reading should be Hope this helps

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The usual remedy is to replace both the tiller pot and speed pot at the same time. If your battery gauge is NOT dropping when speed is dropping then you need a tiller pot replacement as well. These parts have a typical 3-5 year life expectancy.

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George Freed, I don't understand the terminology, like whats a pod and where is is?? Thanks, Jim


I think the following is the post that is in question. I don't see "pod" anywhere in this text. However "pot" is mentioned quite a few times. Do you know what a pot is? Its short for potentiometer, which is kind of variable register when you turn it, it changes its resistance. What controls the speed of the scooter is the toggle throttle lever which are connected to pots. If you have anymore questions please feel free to ask. Be patient i just got my gull bladder removed, it wasn't fun.

You don't want to ever bypass anything on these scooters, doing so will either get someone hurt or silverly damage the scooter. There is a good reason your scooter is shutting down. The controller monitors the amperage flow, if at any time the amperage is to high for to long a period of time the controller will shut down the motor, so as you can see there is no sensor to bypass. Also the controller will send a code 4 failure out to a LED out on tiller head. There should be a lamp blinking on the tiller head when the motor is off line. The service lamp is cyclic, in this case the lamp to flash 4 times pause flash 4 times pause.

iT sounds to me like you have one or more shorted windings on the armature of your drive motor which is apart of the trans-axle assembly. TO BE SURE remove the entire trans-axle module. I have a Rascal 600t all i have to do to remove my trans-axle is to remove to quick pins and my entire trans-axle assembly comes away from the scooter. Take the entire assembly down to your local motor repair shop that can rewind motors. Thay will check out the motor, take it apart and clean all the carbon dust from the brushes that gets all over the interior of the motor, doesn't do the motor bearing any good. Rewinding a motor isn't inexpensive costing $200 and up depending on the size and complexity of the motor. But the scooter trans-axle cost is astoundingly high at $1,500 and up. They say they are sealed unit and that they can not be repaired. In reality trans-axles are quite simple to repair and easily repaired. The only difficult thing are the scooter companies that will not come across with the parts and info we need in order for us to keep our scooters in good repair. So ii'd take the trans-axle down to the motor shop. They don't charge anything to check it out. When they do maintenance you will know its working right. When troubleshooting problem with scooter you eliminate half the machine when you eliminate the trans-axle. Get back to me once you've checked it out

If you want to do a check of the trans-axle your self. You can do this by blocking the drive wheels off the ground. Turn the speed pot to
slow. Just give the motor enough power to just move the tires very slowly. Does it take allot of throttle to move the motor. Could be stiff bearings. Does the motor stall out. Hook an amp meter in series to the motor, run the motor real slow. Does the meter needle bounce around allot. If it does that means the winding are not so good. Now floor scooter. Does the trans-axle get hot. There usually a brake assembly at the end of the motor. When you start or stop the motor put your fingers on it you should feel it engage and disengage. Is that brake dragging, does it get hot. This brake assembly gives me lots of grief, drying out it gets stuck. WARNING never use WD40 it eats certain plastics and gets gummy. I use pure silicon oil spray. Hope this helps.

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First with this kind of problem the easiest thing to do is to pull the trans-axle from the scooter and take it to a motor shop for testing. If it needs anything they will find it. Anyway you will have a known good unit. Next its best to check the engager in the tiller. To test the engager you will need a VOM meter only $9
http://www.amazon.com/Mastech-YG188-Pocket-size-analog-multimeter/dp/B00064CH6A/ref=sr_1_8?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1339024102&sr=1-8

Testing
1 Remove any covers in order to expose engager lever assembly.

2 Check the resistance of the two outside terminals of the engager potentiometer with the multimeter, the reading should be 2.5kohm +/- 200 ohm

3 Slowly squeeze the lever, the needle on the meter should slowly and smoothly drop to zero. Do this same test for the reverse side too. If the meter doesn't move smoothly clean the pot, if the pot is out of spec replace.

To test the controller get both drive wheels off the floor. Make sure the speed pot which is also located in the tiller and is a separate pot from the engager. is set to zero ohms. At the controller output to the motor use the meter to take the DC Voltage measurement. Pull the engager lever to full forward. The meter should ramp up close to 24volts. It won't do this in reverse. If it fails to reach 24 volt use the meter to do continuity checks of the wiring from the speed pot and engager to the controller there should be zero ohms on these connections. Its not difficult to chase wires. What goes into a cable harness comes out somewhere! To do a continuity test you set the meter to the highest ohm scale. Short the test leads together, the needle should deflect. Calibrate the meter to zero by using the zeroing knob or adjustment. Now take a test lead go to the speed pot, place the test lead on to the pot terminal. Trace the wire hooked to the speed pot terminal to its connector plug. Take a measurement from the output side of the connector, not from where the wire goes inti the connector this way we test the connection too. If you get resistance pull the connector apart put it together again\retest, All the stuff in the tiller run into some sort of cable that either plugs directly into the controller if your lucky. If your not lucky and i wasn't the cable runs into the main harness [ the rats nest]. Here you must use s little logic. The lines we are looking at are control lines generally speaking really slender usually around 22 awg. Power lines are way fatter usually 12 to 14 awg. So you right off know that if you got a 22awg wire input you will have the same output. The controllers connector blocks are arranged by function. You can bet
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Hi tandseaster,
I have owned my own business for 3 years and have been working on scooters and powerchairs for 15 years. I know exactly what the problem is. I can almost tell you what kind of scooter you have. In the future give as much info about the scooter as possible.
Your problem is the throttle pot or somtime called the engager.
You can do one of two things. 1. Open the faceplate to your tiller. look for a lock nut on the throttle pot. loosen it, on the bottom of the pot is a slot for a flat tip screwdriver. Take the key out before you start this procedure. You can turn the screw slot on the pot a little at a time, one way then the other. Turn the key back on, turn the speed pot to lowest speed so the scooter won't take off on you. Once you align the throttle pot to neutral tighten the lock nut. The easiest way to fix your problem is:
2. Replace the throttle pot.
Your problem will be fixed.

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