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WATER NOT FLOWING TO COFFEE

THE HOT WATER WORKS, BUT THE WATER WON'T BREW COFFEE. IT JUST FLOWS INTO THE EMPTY BIN. HOW CAN I FIX THIS

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Mine's doing the same. Did you get a new O ring Daniel? If so is it working again? Maybe it's time to recycle mine!

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You might have a broken seal on the brewing unit. There is an O ring on the tamping part that often gets broken with wear. Best to carefully run it with the covers off to determine exactly where the leak is. Parts may be a problem for this model, a lot of bits & pieces are obsolete now. The O ring will be available aftermarket anyway, I've got plenty here in New Zealand.

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I have a saeco super automatica Leaking water


Take the brew unit out when the machine is off and cold. With your finger, check the well next to the large gear on the inside of the machine. This is the gear that fits in the back of the brew unit when it is in place. That well may be clogged with fine coffee grounds and some mildew build up. You might notice that after brewing, very little water will has been flowing into the drip tray. Take a Q-tip and push it through the hole at the bottom of the well to remove the coffee ground buildup. The excess water after brewing will flow through normally now and not behind the brew unit.

Mar 02, 2017 | Saeco Coffee Makers & Espresso Machines

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Ventilate error -


The following procedure works when you get the ventilate error:



The Ventilate sign can be due to one or more of the following reasons:
Cause 1- Water leaking from the inlet valve below the water tank. The hose from the inlet valve to the pump can be air locked. When using the hand pump, do not thrust its nozzle too deep
Cause 2- Blockage in the passage of water due to clogged passage anywhere between the pump and espresso delivery nozzle.
Cause 3- Pump is not working. Open steam/water outlet knob and hear the pump work. If you do not hear any noise from the pump, this may be the main cause.
Cause 4- Flow meter is faulty. This part is like the water meter for homes. It measures the flow of water and signals the electronic board. The malfunctioning flow meter will not send signals even when water is flowing through it.
Cause 5- Hose is disconnected and water is not flowing in the system.
Cause 6- O-rings at hose connection is leaking, reducing the water flow to be sensed by flow meter.
Cause 7- Boiler gasket is leaking. Reduces flow of water through the system.
Cause 9- Brew unit is blocked, blocking flow of water through the flow meter. This also causes pump to slow down and ultimately stop with muffled sound within 15 seconds.
Cause 10- Brew unit not connecting brew valve, preventing flow of water. Same sign under cause 9.
Cause 11- Steam is leaking. Registers reduced flow of water at the flow meter.
Cause 12- Solenoid valve is blocked or solenoid coil is bad. Same observation as cause 9.
Cause 13- Electronic Control board is bad. Though rare it can happen due to condensed water from leaking steam. When steam is leaking or boiler is leaking, machine should not be used any more to prevent steam shorting the Electronic board.
Some of the above causes can be checked and corrected before seeking technical help. Do not assume anything without physically checking each of the following:
1- Make sure the water tank is full. If the water tank has water level float, make sure the float is in its housing and it floats as water is filled in the tank. If the level float does not rise with the level of water, then replace the float.
2- Water is not leaking from below the tank. The inlet valve is good. If leakage is present, replace the gasket in the water inlet valve.
3- Prime the machine by opening the hot water knob for 20 seconds or pressing the hot water button. Hot water flow shows the boiler is not blocked with minerals and pump is good. The solenoid valve is good.
4- Water & steam flowing normal, check the brew group for blockage. Determine when was the last time brew group was cleaned. Clean the brew group as explained elsewhere on these pages. If the machine has pre-ground function, try making a fake espresso (without coffee). Make regular espresso in other models to make sure that water goes through brew group and espresso is dispensed.
4- If hot water does not flow because the pump is not activated, then pump is bad. Replace pump.
5- Pump starts to work but within few seconds its sound is muffled and finally stop. This indicates there is serious blockage in the water line or the boiler is clogged with mineral deposits. If water is leaking and seen on the counter top, the chances are that water is leaking from hose connections(replace O-rings) or the boiler is leaking from seams (replace boiler).
6- Prime the machine by opening steam outlet for 20 seconds. Steam flow shows that steam boiler / steam outlet is not blocked. If the steam does not flow, then steam boiler or steam passage is blocked. Replace steam boiler or steam valve
7- Check the solenoid valves to make sure that they open & close as the coil is energized. Solenoid valve is located between the pump and boiler. The pump is activated simultaneously as the solenoid valve when espresso selection button is pressed. Some models may have a solenoid valve near the steam valve. In these models, the solenoid valve is activated to allow passage for steam/hot water. If the valve is not functioning, the ventilate sign will appear.
7- Hear the pump work when priming the machine. Louder noise from the pump can be due to
** air-locked water hose, or
** water is not sucked from the tank or the pump is sucking air instead of water or
** the diaphragm inside the pump has lost flexibility and not developing pressure to push water forward
** the hydraulic system is blocked at one or more locations due to mineral sediment. Find the location and cause of the block and correct it.
** Clean the brew unit (see cleaning instructions) and make sure that
a- the ground coffee used is not powdery fine.
b- The dose of coffee grounds is not in excess specification
c- check if there is blockage. Find the cause and remove it.
8- If steam and hot water flow is normal, but the ventilate sign persists, then the flow meter or the electronic control board is bad. Replace flow meter or the control board, as necessary.

Try also the following:

  • Press hot water button once. Message on the screen will not change, this is normal.
  • Open the steam knob and allow the water to flow freely from steam wand into a cup. The screen should now read "Hot water,ventilate", you may need yo empty several cups of water before message changes. In some case it is necessary to refill the machine container without interrupting the operation.
  • As soon as the screen displays "hot water," turn the steam valve off .
  • If the machine warms up again, then problem is fixed.

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Grinder works fine. Water pump sounds normal but no water flow when in rinse mode, brewing coffee or in hot water dispense mode. Something is clogged???


Run a simple cleaner through your system without coffee. Pour in white vinegar 4:1 ration. Brew this maybe up to 3 times. Should clean your clog.

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The water is boiling, but wont flow into the filter??


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Keeps spilling over during brewing


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Your problems sounds like an undersized (Non Bunn) filter, or clogged brew basket. To verify this, try pouring in only half the water for your brew cycle and wait for it to finish dripping, then pour in the rest. If no overflow has occurred, you simply have the wrong type of filter. If overflow begins again, you have a clogged brew basket, since no Bunn can flow too fast for the brew basket to keep up with it.

This is because Bunn filters are manufactured differently than generic store bought paper filters. They will flow faster, brew cleaner and stand up better than normal generic filters.
Remember, Bunn makes their OWN filters for good reason.
They made the first, best paper filters for drip coffee pots, and all others are just generic dioxin gas producing paper.

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Ventilate message, but no air in system


HI Sorry, but that sounds like a bad flow meter. The flow meter is not that hard to replace, with a little common sense, but the new flow meter should be the brass one. There are some tricks to getting the top back on, Pull forward on the bypass doser chute a little so it will center in the opening. You don't have to disconnect all the wires that go to the top. They are long enough that the top will set behind the machine carefully. Remember the tubes that go to the flow meter. You don't want to get them backwards.

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If you cannot get hot water from machine(brew unit or steam valve), then there is something wrong with boiler elements.
If water won't flow thru coffee(pump is not vibrating) and you've tried adjusting the grind to a coarser setting, then you will have to replace the pump($50).
However, since no water is going thru machine and it does not heat up then the problem might be the board or the inline fuse on the machine.

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