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The serger will not form the initial chain. Have checked threading and have new needles, any ideas?

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It's an odd thing but on my serger, it actually matters the order in which I thread it. I *try* to tie the new thread to the old and pull it through rather than re-threading, but when I've had to re-thread, I've had trouble getting it to loop again when I thread left to right. It seems that the loopers only loop if the right looper is threaded before the left.

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It is usually VERY important to thread a serger in the proper order or it will never work. Sometimes, even after serging, the machine will malfunction and it may require clipping all the threads between the cones and the tensioners and pulling all the thread ends through the machine, then totally start threading from the beginning. You might check YouTube for instructions on threading your particular serger.

Be sure to RAISE the presser foot before threading the machine. This releases the tension disks so the thread will seat. It also helps to give each thread a little tug to make sure it is in the tension disk all the way.

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The top tread breaks after about 1inch when trying to do chain stich on my janome cover stich machine


Could be the result of several things. There could be some gunk or threads stuck in the tension disk. Be sure to remove the thread and rethread from the beginning in the order specified. ALWAYS RAISE the presser foot when threading!!!! If you haven't tried a brand new needle, do so, and make sure it is pushed all the way up and installed with the flat side facing the correct direction. Some machines recommend #90 as the largest needle to use. Also, perhaps the needle eye is too small to accommodate the thread. Watch where the thread is breaking to give you an idea of where the problem may originate. Try a different brand of thread. Sometimes black thread causes issues because the heavy dye affects the thread. Set the tensions at the midway point and then loosen the tension on that one needle. There could also be a burr or rough spot somewhere along the threadpath that is catching the thread. Last idea--could be a timing issue.

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How can I make it form a chain?


Can't help without knowing the make & model, plus what the symptoms are, like what does the stitch look like? Is the thread looping? Is the upper thread picking up the bobbin thread, etc.? Or is it even a sewing machine, or rather a serger?

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No chain forming on 1034d


You may have re-threaded in the wrong order. The correct order is upper looper, lower looper, right needle, left needle. So 3,4,2,1 (if numbering left to right)

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My Janome 204d Serger won't form a chain stitch. It is threaded correctly. I have changed the needles??


I would suggest that you check the needles again, make sure they are both fully up into the needle housing. Also they should be at different heights in order to form the stitch sequence.

It is important that you thread the loopers first in the sequence shown in your manual, then the needles. So you may need to recheck the threading again and make sure the threads are in all the eyes correctly, especially the lower looper. Also some overlockers, have a sliding eye on the lower looper for ease of threading, if yours does, make sure it has been slid back to normal operating position.

When you have checked the threading up, take all four threads under the raised pressure foot and make sure that the upper looper thread and lower looper threads are not crossing over each other. Lower the pressure foot and try to chain off again.
I hope this helps you to resolve the issue.

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My serger doesnt make any stitches at all. I have been going through this book for 3 years and I cant get it to work


Has it ever chained off since you bought it? If you purchased it second hand it is possible that the timing of the loopers is out and this will prevent a chain from forming.

However, I'll go through general overlocker/serger troubleshooting for threading up. The critical things are to thread it exactly as the diagram shows, some sergers have a diagram inside the front looper cover so its easy to refer to when you are working on the machine. Or use the manual diagram. There is a sequence you need to follow in threading up, usually upper looper, lower looper, then the needles. This is important. Then you pull all four threads under the raised pressure foot, lower the pressure foot, and start to stitch and hopefully a chain forms. If you need to change a thread you can knot on a new colour, turn the tension to zero, then pull through the new thread. Pull the knot right through the looper eyes but you will need to cut the knot out and thread the needles with the new colour once you get there. Then turn tension back to the normal setting (5 usually) and again pull all threads under the foot.

The timing of the two loopers to the needles is critical to a stitch forming though so if you have tried everything and aren't getting a result; then perhaps its time to take it to a service centre, get it checked out and if it works fine for them, ask for a quick demo of threading up, then do it yourself with the demonstrator watching.

Overlockers are very different to sewing machines and there is a learning curve but once mastered, they are so quick and give a great finish.

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I have a elna 686 serger an it sounds perfect and acts like its sewing but there is no thread staying on the material.... I have tryed to rethread it several times and it does not help at all. What could...


There is several things to check:

Is the needle thread actually going through the needle eye?
Is it chaining off without fabric under the foot? If not, then you need to revisit your threading up, there is a specific sequence that you need to thread the loopers then needles, then pull the threads under the foot, lower pressure foot and press the foot control to make a few stitches, a chain of thread should form.

If this is not happening and you have threaded it up in the right sequence, then check both needles are fitted correctly, fully up into the housing and flat shank to the back. On most sergers the two needles sit at different heights in order to form the stitches. If you haven't done it for a while, change the needles.

If you still can't get a chain of stitching then it is possible that the timing between the loopers and needles has gone out and it will need to be serviced by a technician to get this back right.

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I NEED HELP WITH THREADING 4 NEEDLE OVERLOCKER this has to be done in a sequence to form a chain HOW DO I DO THIS


Four needles or four thread (two needles and two loopers)?


Raise the antenna to it's highest position.

Raise the presser foot.

Set the tensions at zero.

Turn the handwheel so the loopers are at their highest position. There may be a mark on the handwheel to match with a mark on the side of the serger for this step.

Thread in the sequence shown on the inside of the serger door.

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You 910 serger doesn't have the option for a Chain Stitch. It is a 2, 3, or 4 thread serger. You can do a good number of different stitches but a chain stich is not one of them.

If what you mean it that it won't "chain off", meaning sew with no fabric beneath the foot as you gently pull the thread towards the rear of the machine, that could be for a number of different reasons. First, change the needles and unthread the machine and start over. If the threads are not exactly where they should be, your serger won't sew correctly. A great video on threading your machine can be seen at:http://www.husqvarnaviking.com/mediafiles/huskylock/index_en.html

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With some sergers, but not many (singer 14u64 comes to mind), the top of the stitch will be an overedge that mates with the right needle thread, and the left needle thread will appear as a separate straight stitch. When you look at the underside of the stitch, the overedge will go all the way over to the left needle (the full width of the stitch). This is normal if you have this type of machine. Another stitch some sergers do (2/4 thread sergers) is a 2 thread chain thal looks like a lone straight stitch on both sides, and a 2 thread separate overedge.

As far as the threading of the takeup, it totally depends on your model. Always post your model number when you have questions as sergers vary greatly in design.

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