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My car radio can be turned on when no key is in the ignition. How do I change this so that it only turns on when the ignition is in accessory mode?

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Is this a factory radio or an aftermarket radio?

Posted on Apr 08, 2015

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    This is a factory radio.

  • rdjagger Apr 08, 2015

    I suspect a former owner retired it. Trace power wire from radio to power source. Remove from that power source which is always on and connect to accessory power source that is only on when in accessory run mode. Most likely at fuse block. Good luck.

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Assuming your radio is aftermarket, and that the installer connected a power source directly to the battery and fused it, all you would need to do is 1) move the power wire/Constant to get power from the stock radio fuse block, or 2) wire it into the stock wires for the Power/Constant from the car.

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http://www.aa1car.com/library/ignition_switch_positions.jpg

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