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Started with fuel issue kept choking out. Replaced pump and filter but then it wouldn't start acted like the starter but its some kind of short

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    Kprime Apr 10, 2015

    Hi Melody Fulton, I want to help you with your question, but I need more information from you. Can you please add details in the comment box? Need Make/Model/Year/Engine Model/Transmission Model/Deck Size, and hours on meter if you have one. If you haven’t already done so, add a short description of the events preceding the beginning of the problem.

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For an answer specific to your machine we need:

  • Make
  • Model
  • Year
  • Engine Model
  • Transmission Model
  • Deck Size
  • Hours on meter (helps diagnose some engine problems)
  • If you haven't already done so, add a short description of the events preceding the beginning of the problem
Let's say you have less than 300 hours on the engine. Let's further assume it worked last summer, or last week, but now it's acting up. Let's also verify the battery is in good shape and fully charged.

A mechanically functional (meaning all the internal parts are working, i.e. pistons, valves, etc) engine requires 3 things, air under pressure, fuel, spark. So the quickest way to start your diagnostics is to remove the cover over the air filter and then remove the air filter. I do not recommend spraying Quick Start.
  1. remove air filter (set it aside for the rest of the diagnostics)
  2. put throttle on fast run (do not choke)
  3. pour an ounce or two of fresh gas into the carburetor
  4. crank engine (15 to 20 seconds, rest to cool the starter, repeat 3 times if it does not fire at first).
Removing the air filter and placing the throttle at full speed, with no choke, eliminates the "air intake" question for now. Dumping in the fuel bypassed all fuel related questions.
  • If the engine fires and runs a bit, then dies, you may have eliminated the spark question and you need to track down any fuel problems.
  • If the engine does not fire you must tract down a Spark problem.

    Tracking down fuel problems.
  1. Make sure there is plenty of fresh fuel in tank. High Octane less than one month old. Water in the fuel system will often cause hard starting, low power, backfiring, surging or stalling
  2. Is there a cut off valve at the gas tank? If so check that it is open or working if it is electric.
  3. This step comes from repeated personal experience with JD gas tanks. Remove fuel line from filter and remove the filter, gas should pour out of the hose coming from the tank. (look at the filter before removing it, it should look ¾ full of fuel. If it's not that's a clue to fuel flow problems.) If gas does not pour out remove gas tank cap. If fuel flows now, you need to unclog the cap vent or replace the cap. The vent is that tinnnny little hole in the center of the cap. If the fuel still does not flow then blow air from the filter end of the hose back up through fuel line to blow out any blockage inside the gas tank.

    Do your self a favor, leave the gas cap off and turn the outlet air on your compressor down below 20 psi. If the tank is nearly full you will blow gas out of the tank. Do this outside if possible; at the very least you need a well ventilated area. After blowing air from the air filter back to the tank, you may have to reverse the process and pressurize the tank to get the fuel started. I place my hand over the open tank and hold the air hose between the joint of my thumb and forefinger to seal the tank, and then squeeze the trigger. Once you have a good fuel flow out the line to the filter, put on a FRESH FILTER. Try cranking the engine. If it still does not start move on to the fuel pump and carburetor
  4. Check the fuel pump.The fuel pump system on the twin Koehler and the Twin Briggs are almost identical. Watch this excellent, eight minute, video to learn how to check the fuel system, including the pump, up to the carburetor. .
    Small Engine Repair Checking Vacuum Fuel Pump Fuel System on Kohler Twin...
  5. Note: My engine was starting hard and dying in the field this year (March 2015). While doing a valve adjustment, I found a hairline crack in the bend of the vacuum hose powering the fuel pump. It's the short hose running from the valve cover to the fuel pump. The fuel pump will not work if this hose is cracked. The crack followed the seam and was not easily noticeable.
  6. Many systems have a fuel shut off solenoid. This is a small cylinder on the bottom of the carburetor. It has two wires running to it. It should make an audible click when you turn the key on. If it does not click you will have to replace it or track down an electrical problem.
  7. If this has not solved the problem you may have to remove and disassemble, clean, or rebuild the carburetor at this point. You may have water, dried fuel (varnish) or trash in the carburetor bowl. Before removing and disassembling the carburetor try draining the bowl. Or, take the bowl off, careful not to drop the small parts inside. Clean the bowl and replace. I often remove the bowl on small engines and save the hassle of a complete carb removal.

NOTE: Connect a volt meter across the two battery posts. If battery voltage drops below 9 volts when cranking or while the engine is running, the fuel cut off solenoid will not function. That means the engine will not start or will die soon after starting. So check your battery voltage before, during, and after cranking. If the battery voltage is good before but drops below 9 volts while cranking this is generally a sign the battery has one or more bad cells. Replace the battery. If the battery is in fact good, and the voltage is still dropping, you may have a bad starter motor which is drawing too much amperage.

If you find this fuel checkup does not solve the problem, re post your question with updated info and I will walk you through the next step. Tracking down a spark problem; yes, your problem could involve the coil, coil wire, spark plug, and safety kill system.

Small Engine Repair Checking Vacuum Fuel Pump Fuel System on Kohler Twin...

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You have 3 safety switches usually,if you would of had the make and model,i couldve got you a manual,anyways,there is a seat,deck and neutral switch if any of those go bad it wont start,to find out if it is a safety switch,unplug the thin wire that goes to the coil,it should be black,try to start it,if it starts,it is a switch,if it doesnt then the coil,points or plug are bad

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