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Replaced bad starter & solenoid. No Voltage to rest of tractor. Bypassed solenoid & starter cranks/won't start eng. No voltage to circuit board for ignition,lights or any where? Replaced 15 amp fuses.

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    Kprime Apr 08, 2015

    Hi Anonymous, I want to help you with your question, but I need more information from you. Can you please add details in the comment box? Need Make/Model/Year/Engine Model/Transmission Model/Deck Size, and hours on meter if you have one. A short description of the events preceding the beginning of the problem is also helpful.

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Ok Why did you replace The Starter ?ther is fuseable Link in the System look for it close to the switch and the starter Might have one close to it then replace it then start by Looking for ground Wire Are Very important with these thing,s they Break easy with Heat First then start removing Parts Let me Know How Ya MAde Out Thks Again for your time

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Testimonial: "Old starter failed. tested bad. had power at dash till I installed new starter? what is fuseable link look like & is it replaceable?"

  • Paul Marks Apr 13, 2015

    it is in the wire small won goin to the Starter put tester on it to see if ya have power if not replace it then it should work

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