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SOURCE: pendulum in beat but stops running after a few

CLOCK OILING TIPS * NOTE: Many Master Clock Smiths and Hobbyists used many different oils and as many different techniques.
* It is only good sense to use only the best in quality when selecting clock oils and grease. A number of fine oils are made especially for clocks. The oil used should stay in place and not evaporate easily and have no tendency to gum or get sticky as it ages. Most clock oils meet these standards. [CAUTION: Never consider using non-clock lubricants, as they tend to not really work well in clocks. Some are too light and cause unnecessary bushings wear, while others are too thick or can evaporate, over time will gum up and stop the clock prematurely.]

Oiling Procedures
-Main-springs are oiled after cleaning and before they are recoiled.
-Teeth and pinions are never oiled.
-Normally, the dial train of gears, hour wheel, minute wheel and minute wheel post are not oiled. However, oil is used between the center shaft and cannon pinion where slip friction is present in setting the hands.
-All points of friction such as train wheel pivots to bushings are oiled. Verge faces are oiled directly.
-Oil is always used sparingly and should never run all over the plates.

Hope this tip helps.

R/
DAvid

http://antiqueclock.clockstop.com/oil.htm

Posted on Feb 08, 2010

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SOURCE: we have a seth thomas

The clock must be levelled the same as when it was previously set up. In other words, if you didn't check the level of the clock before disassembly and reassembled it and re-levelled it, it may not operate because it might not be the same.
Some clocks have different weights for the clock, chime, and hour strike. Did you mark them and install them in the same location?
My Seth Thomas has a screw to adjust the swing of the pendulum to allow proper escapement on the gear, but you have to be able to determine which way the pendulum needs to swing more to make that adjustment. I may be able to help you with this!
You may need a clock repair service.
Let me know,
Gary

Posted on May 29, 2011

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The pendulum swings for a few minutes then stops how do i fix/


If this is a true pendulum mvmnt, you must have it level and plumb. check with a level and adjust case to achieve as close to even as you can.

May 13, 2017 | The Watches

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REGULATION TIPS FOR THE 400-day and 1000-day clocks


CLOCK REGULATION TIPS FOR THE ROTATING REGULATOR
These Regulations tips are useful for regulating the rotating regulator. This is to include most 400-day and 1000-day clocks.
The following information is copied from SCHATZ (tm) OWNER'S HANDBOOK.
Time Regulation Tip:
On the top of the pendulum is a disk on which numbers are engraved 1 - 16 and two arrows marked F - S. The small indicator hand will be pointing to a number on the disk at which the clock was regulated before leaving the factory. Should you find it necessary to regulate the clock, observe the number to which the indicator hand points. The distance between each number is equivalent to 1/2 minute in 24 hours + or -.
FRROM MY PERSONAL SHOP NOTES:
If your clock loses two minutes per day [24 hours] and the indicator hand points to number 8 on the disk - move the disk in the direction of the arrow marked F until the indicator hand will point to number 1.
NOTE:
Before attempting adjustments to the regulator disk, first lock the pendulums by using the lever located on the front of the base. By so doing, you will avoid damage to the delicate suspension wire while turning the regulating disk.
Keep A Regulation Record:
Keeping a short Record of regulation and maintenance on your clock will make it much easier for you to keep it well with in its optimum time-keeping ability. We have found that using the guideline below helps.
Date: +/- in min: How much adjust in Degrees +/-: Personal Notes:
We recommend logging only the times the clock was wound, and any time the clock is regulated or reset.
Times of regulation will include any time the clock has exceeded a 3 to 5 minute error.
Use only ONE form of time references for this, a QUARTZ clock that is known for keeping good time is recommended.
Over time you may find the clock needs only slight regulation; for example, if it has run for approximately 3 weeks and the error rate is under 3 minutes adjust regulator only slightly or simply RE-set.
TEMPERATURE and SEASONAL CHANGES
Temperature fluctuation can affect the time-keeping abilities of your clock.
Never allow direct sun light to come in contact with your clock. This will over heat the clock and it will not only affect the time-keeping qualities, but also dry out the oil and cause premature servicing requirements.
SPECIAL NOTES: REGULATION TENDENCIES
It is very difficult to look at the hands of an analog clock and still determine if the clock is running correctly, therefore I recommend allowing the time error rate on the clock to remain UN-touched until the error rate has exceeded + or - 3 to 5 minutes. This is because 1 minute is very difficult to observe and calculate effectively.
One little known fact about the Rotating Regulator: After the clock is restarted it can take up to 3 or 4 hours for the pendulum to settle down into regular beat rate. Example: If the pendulum is under rotated the clock will run fast and will take some time to bring it up to speed. If over rotated it will run slow. RECOMMENDATIONS ARE: Look at the actual clock time and reset it as closely as possible to real time after the clock has run for about 3 to 4 hours but don't disturb the pendulum. ONLY RESET THE CLOCK IF the actual clock time is off by 1 or 3 minutes.
If you must reset the clock every 3 to 4 weeks, and it is FOR EXAMPLE always slow, Slightly RE-Regulate the clock to compensate for this rate of error. Simply reset the clock several times just to make sure that no mistakes are made.
How to Calculate the Adjustment:
Calculating how much to turn the regulating nut on the rotating pendulum by using the following calculations.
Link to data base located at http://antiqueclock.clockstop.com/Regulate.html
 
Hope this tip helps.
r/David

on Feb 17, 2010 | Watches

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Cuckoo Clock Repair


CUCKOO CLOCK
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REGULATION AND REPAIR TIPS

REF: 30 hour and 8 day clock
[From my shop notes:]
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{FACT}
-1/8 inch movement of the pendulum bob is equal to about 3 min per 24 hours running.
-To increase the time of the clock, move pendulum up.
-To slow down the time move, pendulum down.

Regulation notes:
These novel clocks are at best only a "fair" time-keeper. You can expect 100 to 120 sec per 30-hour winding period. I recommend that if it is within a few minutes per winding, simply RE-set the time.

-The regulation obstacles are obvious:
1. Open pendulum, this allows even the slightest breeze from a fan, ceiling fan or even cross-winds inside your house to affect both time qualities and/or its running ability.
2. The Pendulum material is wooden, and sensitive to climatic condition, during times of high humidity the clock will slow down.




REPAIR TIPS:

1. Recommend regular servicing every 2 to 3 years for these unique clocks, mostly due to the fact that the movement is open to the elements (dust and dirt is easily deposited on the movement).
2. Sometimes the clock is "over weighted", meaning that the actual weight is to heavy for the clock. I have seen some very new clocks with the wrong weights added. Instead of the clock simply stopping after the lubrication qualities are gone it continues to run and ruined the bushings.
-To find the correct weight of a newly serviced clock, you can use a small scale. Anchor it to the floor, connect chain to the top end, wind it until it is more than double the weight of the existing weights, and then start the clock to running after the clock stops running, X's the weight figure on the scale by multiplying 1.25 or 1.35 X's the weight figure on the scale by 25 to 35 % maximum = the amount needed. [Example scale indicator is on 1 lb x 25% = 1.25 lb




BELLOW REPAIR:


-Unfortunately many repair persons have opted to simply replace the bellow, this is unfortunate because it can so easily be repaired.

-I use a "RE-COVERING BELLOWS" kit.

-This kit comes with bellow replacement material, glue, one wooden handling tool and great instructions.
DO NOT attempt to simply patch work this, it is not fair to the customer and it will not work long.

THE CHAIN:

If needed, don't be afraid to replace the chain as they are easily ordered and replaced. Most cost about $3 to $4 a piece.

The problems are:

-If there is a child, pet, or adult in the house, the chain can be stretched. If the chain becomes damaged, it will get hung up inside the clock. "Even one damaged link can stop the clock."
-Wrong size chain {the differences between 72 links per foot and 67 links per foot are easily confused). Recommend actually laying the chain on the chain drive gear and seeing if it fits.


MUSIC BOX GOVERNORS:image008.jpg


Clean and oil only. Check the pivots if worn. Don't waste your time to try and repair, just replace the Governor. Only the actual music drum can be sleeved with a new bushing. Cost for a new governor is about $25. Well worth having a few assorted governors in stock.
-If a complete replacement is necessary, the cost is about $40 to $50.

Hope this tip helps.
R/ David

http://antiqueclock.clockstop.com/CUCKOO.htm


on Jan 22, 2010 | Watches

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Pendulum stops within a few minutes


Spaying with oil may cause more problems than it solves, as the oil collects dust and is likely to clog the machism.

Although I have never tried it myself, I have been told that the way to clean clock mechanisms is to put some cotton wool beneath the mechanism and pour some surgical spirit onto the wool. I understand that the rising vapour lifts off the dirt.

Must be worth a try.

If this does not succeed, then take it to a watch repairer.

Good luck.

May 27, 2010 | Watches

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Pendulum in beat but stops running after a few


CLOCK OILING TIPS * NOTE: Many Master Clock Smiths and Hobbyists used many different oils and as many different techniques.
* It is only good sense to use only the best in quality when selecting clock oils and grease. A number of fine oils are made especially for clocks. The oil used should stay in place and not evaporate easily and have no tendency to gum or get sticky as it ages. Most clock oils meet these standards. [CAUTION: Never consider using non-clock lubricants, as they tend to not really work well in clocks. Some are too light and cause unnecessary bushings wear, while others are too thick or can evaporate, over time will gum up and stop the clock prematurely.]

Oiling Procedures
-Main-springs are oiled after cleaning and before they are recoiled.
-Teeth and pinions are never oiled.
-Normally, the dial train of gears, hour wheel, minute wheel and minute wheel post are not oiled. However, oil is used between the center shaft and cannon pinion where slip friction is present in setting the hands.
-All points of friction such as train wheel pivots to bushings are oiled. Verge faces are oiled directly.
-Oil is always used sparingly and should never run all over the plates.

Hope this tip helps.

R/
DAvid

http://antiqueclock.clockstop.com/oil.htm

Feb 08, 2010 | Watches

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I have a forestville wall clock with the pull down weights. when it chimes it is behind in time. example nine oclock chimes seven oclock, it is a made in germany clock but what year i do not know. there...


Stop the pendulum of the clock exactly at any even hour. Lets say at 6.00. While clock is steady and not working, pull off the minute and hour hands off the pinion, but do not brake them. You have to pull without any twisting action. This will leave pinions exactly in place they were when you stopped the clock. When it is done - push the hour hand back onto the pinion and make sure it is pointing at 4 (not 6, as it was when you stopped the clock). When hour hand is back in place and pointing at 4, push back minute hand as it was when you pulled it off - pointing at 12. Make sure hands will not catch when passing each other (you can bend them slightly if needed). Now swing pendulum to start the clock and adjust time (clockwise only). Never adjust time when clock is chiming. Rate me, plz.

Feb 02, 2010 | Watches

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Bakelite antique mantle clock just bought, but no instructions of how to get it going. Ive got the key and pendulum but dont know how to set it up. Can you help?


First you have to wind up your clock using the key supplied. The pendulum suspension spring should start to swing quite fast. Stop it swinging with your fingers and hook up the pendulum. When done, push the pendulum to whatever side and release it to start the swing - the clock should start ticking in normal order. If there is no special bar on the back of clock movement for adjusting hands, then hands must be adjusted from the dial side by moving minute hand clockwise. Move the minute hand with your finger clockwise to the desired time, at the same time do not catch hour hand, as this may end up with the incorrect time displayed. Rate me, plz.

Jan 28, 2010 | Watches

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What ports wind what?


On mine, the center one (@the 6 position) is the one that keeps the pendulum swinging. It is the one that lengthens the most during the week and if I forget to wind it, that pendulum is all the way down when the clock stops.

May 02, 2009 | Watches

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I inherited a grandfather clock which runs slow


You have to adjust the bob on pendulum. If the clock is slow, the bob on the rod must be pushed up. If the clock is fast, the bob must be pushed down. Do adjustments bit by bit, day by day till the clock is keeping time. If all this does not work, you may need to replace suspension spring (if there is any). If there are no suspension spring, the clock may need proffessional attention.

Mar 23, 2009 | Watches

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