Marshall Mg100dfx 100-Watt Combo Guitar Amplifier
Problem for Marshall Mg100dfx 100-Watt Combo Guitar Amplifier

Gain knob produced crackling sound




By madozz_33 on Jul 08, 2009

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gain knob produced crackling sound
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Jul 08, 2009

- i wanna changed the knob.can you give me the right specs e.g 5k,100k,500k.

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posted on Jul 08, 2009
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SFFrog

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This is usually caused by oxidation in the potentiometer (fancy name for your volume control, also called a pot). The solution is to buy a small spray can of tuner cleaner, then unplug the amp and partially extract the electronics chassis from the case -- usually by removing screws in the top (but NOT usually the top handle screws), then gently sliding the chassis forward until you can easily see and reach behind your gain knob. You should see a squashed metal cylinder attached thru the faceplate to that knob -- that's the pot. It will probably have 3 wires attached -- don't worry: these never have voltages high enough to feel even when the amp is on. Either near where these wires are attached or elsewhere on that cylinder there should be one or more small holes. Using the small plastic tube that came with that spray can of tuner cleaner, spray a small amount of cleaner into the pot, then turn the gain knob from maximum to minimum and back several times. I usually do this by plugging the amp into a receptacle and moving the knob this way BEFORE using the spray, listening for the noises, then I spray it, manipulate the knob as described and hear the noise disappear. Unless you're confident about doing that, DON'T! Instead, slide the chassis back into the case and plug the amp in, then see if the noise is gone. If so, put in all the screws and you're done. If there's a noticeable improvement, but still some noise, move the knob bank and forth a few more times to see if that fixes it; if not, unplug the amp, slide the chassis out again and repeat the spraying procedure one time, then reassemble the amp and plug it in. If your problem is still not gone, you'll have to replace the pot. If you know how to solder WELL, you can order another volume pot thru a Marshall dealer or online, OR you can remove the pot and take it to a local electronics store where they can probably find an equivalent potentiometer at a lower price than the genuine Marshall part -- be sure to ask for one with "an audio taper" (a geometric chance in resistance that corresponds to how audio amplifiers control sound). Good luck, and please post your results on this website.
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Jul 08, 2009

- All three diagnoses and solutions are basically the same, but salty5337's solution only works on a limited number of electronics devices and I've never seen a guitar amp that was assembled in a way to make that possible(although it does work on many other things). Still, you should see if his solution is physically possible before trying the more complex way -- I could be wrong about that particular amp's physical configuration.

By the way, tuner cleaner and contact cleaner are synonymous; different manufacturers use different descriptive names.

Jul 08, 2009

- It looks like robotek really knows his stuff. His explanation is better than mine about salty's method which only works in special cases where there's a large enough hole in the chassis front to allow you to get the spray angled into where robotek's picture points. His picture of the pot is exactly what I was trying to describe -- I just never thought of inserting an image! Robotek is absolutely right about the dangers of spraying into the wrong place.
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Solution #2

posted on Jul 08, 2009
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robotek

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Hey madozz
There is an easy solution for this you can do yourself. You will need a philips screw driver to remove the chassis out of the amplifiers cabinet. Go to radio spares and buy some Caig's Deoxit contact cleaner spray, then use it to flood the inside of the gain control using the plastic extension nozzle that comes with it via the slot where the terminals exit the pot. rotatae the pot a few times to distribute, and the crackles will be gone. If you cannot get Deoxit, CRC2-26 is another favourite of mine to solve this problem and can be got at most electrical wholesalers/hardware stores.
I am happy to answer any questions that you may have. Good luck and thanks for using FixYa.
regards robotek
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Jul 08, 2009

- With the indulgance of salty, and in contrary to popular misconception, you will not get cleaner spray into the the pot without removing the chassis from the cabinet, and applying it in the manner I have prescribed. . Removing the knob, and attempting to spray contact cleaner/lubricant in from the front through the shaft/bearing for the pot will not work. If anything, you may only succeed in disolving the grease in the shaft assembly, and even render the pot siezed. Bewarned that most all proprietory contact maintainance sprays will leave an oily molecular film.
This is a vol control.

Notice the slot on the underside of the terminals. This is where you need to spray the contact treatment.
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Solution #3

posted on Oct 10, 2009
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salloves_011

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what happen to the output waveform when you turn the gain knob?
tittle from optical fiber losses.

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Solution #4

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salty5337

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Sounds like you have a dirty gain pot. Unplug you amp from power, remove the knob and get some tuner control / contact cleaner at Radio Shack or another electronics supply store.They usually come with a red tube you can stick on the spray nozzle so you can get into tight spots, your gonna need it.

Once the knob is removed, spray a couple of shots of cleaner into where the shaft meets the base if the gain pot and then turn the shaft from min to max numerous times to work in the cleaning solution. This cleaner will self dissolve so you dont have to worry about cleaning up the excess.

After about five minutes or so, replace the knob plug in and power up your amp and try it out if its still crackly and scratchy repeat the steps.

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