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Power out for 48 hours, tankless water heater located outside of house, temperature around 20 degrees, no hot water coming out of tap, where do i begin?

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First, I don't even want to know why someone would put a tankless outside as you have found out...really bad idea. In order to help you, more information is needed. Is this a gas or electric unit? Or a gas unit with electric controls? Is it mechanically or electronically controlled ( a make and model would help). Are the water lines to or from the tank exposed? When you say no hot water coming from the tap does that mean when you turn on the hot water faucet you just get cold water or no water?

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http://waterheatertimer.org/Crossover.html

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Faulty household pressure tank, if installed -or- pressure tank needs to be installed.
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