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I can not get the top thread to pick up the bobbin thread, need steps to make adjustments

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1. Lower the pressure foot and hold the top thread while you rotate the handwheel.
2.If that didn't work then turn the hand wheel and monitor the bobbin to see if the top thread was picked up by the sharp thing "hook". It should pull the thread across the top of the bobbin area.
3. Did the thread stick somewhere while the thread was moving across the bobbin. If it did stick then that spot needs to be adjusted a little. This can usually be done by moving the holders away from the bobbin holder just a very, very little.
4. If this didn't work you will need to check the hook for smoothness and a sharp tip.
5 If none of this works you will need to have a repairman time your machine or you can learn how on youtube.

Posted on Dec 02, 2014

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Posted on Jan 02, 2017

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here some suggestionMost likely cause is lint in and around bobbin area. If you are using a standard top tension of 4 or 5 and this problem has developed over time, the most likely cause is lint deposited between the tension disks....... if the top tension is loose, or in the tension spring of the bobbin case if the bottom tension is having troubles. In either case you need to remove the lint...... 
Raise the presser foot and with a length of scrap fabric, use an action like flossing your teeth to get between the top tension disks......in extreme cases a probe (old needle) may be used very gently to remove thread and lint, but be VERY careful not to scratch the polished surfaces. 
I have also written a tutorial on tension balance which may be of further assistance, particularly for bobbin tension issues: 

Please TRY the solution BEFORE giving your considered rating.

Ensure that all is clean and free of lint and jams, this is the most likely cause....now for tension troubleshooting .......

This solution is for tension problems...if you cannot form any sort of stitch, the issue is quite different, so please let me know if you need a different problem solved.....

It is quite long, but just work through each section in order.
The "knotting up" can reveal a lot. If you have loose threads on one side or the other, the tension on the opposite side will be the culprit.

QUICK SUMMARY FIRST:
Ensure sharp new needle, 
Thread guides and Bobbin are Clean & Clear of lint
Set Top Tesion to 4 ....then....
Balance Bobbin to suit.

TOP THREAD TENSION:
If the looping threads are on the underside as you sew, it is the top tension. Top tension ought to be between 4 & 6 (this variation to allow for the different weights of fabric in your 
projects). 

IS YOUR NEEDLE SHARP ?
If you are using a needle that has seen quite a deal of work, or you suspect it may be blunt, change it for a new one !

TOP TENSION & GUIDES:
Make sure that when you thread the machine the presser foot is up so the thread goes between the discs and not to one side, top tension between 4 and 6, and that you have threaded through all the guides, including the last one, usually on the needle arm, just above the needle clamp.

It may be there is lint trapped between the discs, this will keep them slightly apart and reduce the actual tension, sometimes dramatically.

If tensions appear correct, and the thread is definitely in the channel between the discs, but still too loose and looping, try raising presser foot and remove your thread.

Now, with a 2" (50mm) wide strip piece of fabric 8 - 10" (20 - 25cm) moistened with methylated or denatured spirit, gently insert the fabric strip and clean between the discs with 
a see saw / to and fro action.

In the worst cases, gentle use of a needle to pick & remove the jam may be necessary, but be very gentle and make sure the tension is set at Zero and the presser foot is raised, (to 
disengage tension plates).... do not gouge or score the plates, they need a polished surface to work correctly.

BOBBIN TENSION:
Far less common, but if the loose threads are on the top, it is bobbin tension that is loose, it too may have lint in the spring and be giving a "false" tension. 

I would not recommend fiddling with bobbin tension without good reason, it may end up with missing small screws and spring pieces, however, you can take the needle plate off to clean 
the hook race area (where bobbin case sits) 

...this is just good housekeeping, my wife does this every time she replaces the bobbin....

just take it out and clean the bobbin case and the fixed metal hook race with a small brush to remove lint. If there is a significant amount of lint, use a vacuum and small brush to get the worst.

Then wipe all this area with a cloth or cotton bud (Q tip) moistened (not soaked) with methylated spirit, especially if there appears to be fine dirty deposits....oil and lint combine to conspire against you.

If it seems likely that you ......really ....do .....actually .....need .....to adjust the bobbin case, first check there is no lint trapped in the metal spring where the thread is tensioned. 

TOP LOADER:
Drop-in Bobbin case will look similar to this image with the tension screw in the middle of the metalwork....d51a4ed.jpg

4c76dc1.jpg ...the other screw at one end is holding it all together, so beware....it is not a tragedy to undo the whole lot and clean it, but very gingerly and lay the bits out in sequence and orientation, or you risk tearing your hair out !

FRONT LOADER:
....this is a bobbin case from a front loading machine and works in a very similar fashion to the top loader with drop in bobbin, again, if you dismantle it, take care so you can put it all 
back properly.
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GETTING THE BALANCE RIGHT:
When you are certain there's no trapped lint in top tension or bobbin, set the top tension to 4 and the bobbin tension to a point where you just begin to feel resistance.

Try using good quality thread of contrasting colours so you can more easily spot the changes.

Set your zigzag to one width less than maximum (eg. 5 of 6 ...or... 4 of 5 etc) and sew a sample for a few inches and check the result.... adjust the bobbin tension screw very little at 
a time, perhaps 1/16 of a turn.

You may find you are playing with this balance for some little while and if you are putting the needleplate on and off each time begin to think it cannot be correct to do this.....BUT....it is, 
and eventually, you do get a "feel" for the correct tension and then it happens quite quickly.....as a user you won't be doing it very often unless there is lint built up (or are there small hands at work around the house !?!?!)

OTHER ISSUES:
If you live near the ocean as we do, salt air can play havoc with metalwork inside and out, so to help minimise this, keep a few small packets of dessicant (silica gel) in your machine 
case....no case ? then make some sort of cover ! 

Same applies in any damp or humid environment, keep your machine dry and dust free.

Budget for a proper full service every couple of years (more often if heavily used) and if you don't use your machine for a few years, be aware that old oil will dry out and combining with 
dust and form a "clag" like glue (another reason for some sort of cover, even a teatowel !)

FINALLY, A WORD ON THREAD:
If it is worth spending the time, energy and money on making something that you would like to give lasting enjoyment......use quality thread, .......it may seem to cost a little more at the 
time, but the results, ease of use and added longevity will be worth the extra, and as a bonus, your tension troubles may be fewer and further between, because there is a more consistent diameter with good thread, and less compensating to be done by your tension plates and less thread breaks !
 
 

Posted on Jan 03, 2009

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SOURCE: bottom thread of sewing machine jams up

Try turning the bobbin around. Some bobbins should turn clockwise, some counter clockwise. What you described is what my Kenmore and Brother machines do when the bobbin is in incorrectly.

Posted on Apr 15, 2009

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SOURCE: burnette 65 bobbin tangling can't adjust thread tension

Have you replaced the needle with a new one? Your needle may be bent or in wrong, or the wrong size. You may have a bad needle. Check that the upper thread path is running freely and is not tangled or wrapped around anything. Make sure that the bobbin is unwinding in the correct direction as well, most bobbins, this is clockwise as the bobbin faces you. If you are using inexpensive thread, it could be the thread that is the culprit. Uneven thread in the needle will not flow through the needle properly, and cause bunching as well. Save it for the bobbin, and use good thread in the top.

Posted on Jul 17, 2009

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SOURCE: top thread will not pick up bobbin thread makes a big loopy mess

This is sometimes caused by the upper thread not threaded correctly. You need to thread it first with the pressure foot in the up position. You need to "floss" the thread into the clear plastic guide as this is where the tension is. The tension should be set to E for embroidering. Also make sure you get the bobbin thread in the slot on the bobbin case. Also, lower your pressure foot before you begin embroidering. Hope this helps!

Posted on Oct 21, 2009

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SOURCE: brother pe150 won't pick up bobbin thread

Hi. This may sound silly, but the most likely reason the upper thread doesn't pick up the bobbin thread is that the needle is in backwards. (Sounds silly, but it's true!)

Needle shanks have a flat side and that flat side has to go in a particular way for your machine. With most modern machines, the flat side goes to the rear, facing away from you. Check your manual to be sure.

The second most likely reason is that your needle may be bent. Check that your needle is straight (or just use a new one).

Hope this helps!


Happy Sewing,

Robbie

Posted on Mar 15, 2010

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1. Clean up any loose thread in the bobbin area.
2. Pull on the bobbin thread while it is out. It should give a tension that is equal to the top tension of three. You'll have to approximate. Adjust the screw tension on the bobbin. It is the screw nearest to the thread exit hole on the side.
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Probably best to consult your owner's manual. If you don't have one, search the internet for:

Manufacturer + Model + the word "Manual"

HINT--BEFORE threading the upper thread, raise the presser foot so the thread will seat properly in the tension disk. Verify that you are threading everything correctly and not missing any steps.

The upper tension is the dial usually directly above the needle. About the halfway point between the high and low number is the standard factory setting, but that may have changed over time. Start with it set at that point and test, re-adjust, test... For most machines, the higher the number, the tighter the tension.

Correct tension is when the upper and bobbin threads meet in the middle of the fabric. If the bobbin tension is coming to the top of the fabric, the tension is too tight. If the upper thread is showing on the bottom of the fabric or is creating a loopy mess, the upper tension is too loose.

In most cases, the bobbin tension doesn't need adjusting. However, when you get into more adventurous sewing when you load different types of thread, ribbon, elastic, etc. in the bobbin, you might want to adjust the bobbin tension. In any event, be sure to mark the screwdriver slot setting on the bobbin case so you will be able to undue any adjustments you make. And, make only 1/8th turn adjustments at a time and then re-test. Small changes to bobbin tension will make a big impact in stitch quality. Some sewists will buy an extra bobbin case to keep on hand just for special projects.

Also, note that the upper tension will probably need re-adjustment when changing projects with different types or weights of fabric, thread, and needle. Get used to adjusting the upper tension to get the best stitch possible on every project.

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  1. Using a doubled piece of fabric similar to what you have in mind for your project, sew a seam on the diagonal-pulling the fabric on the diagonal to break the threads. (Ideal tension would either break neither thread or break both threads. So, a single breaking thread signals that the tension needs adjusting.)
  2. Snap out the faceplate to remove it & to gain access the bobbin area below the sewing needle.
  3. Remove the bobbin case & bobbin-lifting the hinged latch that you would to wind a new bobbin-leaving the bobbin in the case. (You need it in there to feel the tension as you adjust it.)
  4. Using a small screwdriver, very slightly turn the screw on the side of the bobbin case clockwise to increase tension; counterclockwise to decrease tension.
  5. Pull the bobbin thread while you hold the bobbin in its case & feel the thread's tension. Too tight of tension would prevent the thread from dispensing (& possibly break), but too loose of tension would allow the bobbin to fall out of its case.
  6. Return the bobbin case to the sewing machine & close the faceplate.
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Secondly, make sure the bobbin is loaded correctly and firmly attached in place. The thread should just hang off the outside of the bobbin.
Hold onto the upper thread and manually turn the machine through the start of a cycle. When the needle goes into the top plate and down toward the bobbin, a hook should grab the top thread, rotate it about straight down (6 o'clock position) and then release it to grab the bobbin thread. Continue slowly turning the machine manually until you see (hopefully) the thread from the bobbin. Use something thin to pull both threads to the rear, under the foot, and all should be good. When you first start to sew, you might need to hold onto the top thread so it is not pulled out of the needle.
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Hold on to the top thread as the needle lowers and raises.

If it does not catch the bobbin thread, the timing may need adjusted.

You can find a graphic for adjusting the timing at sewusa.com, or take the machine in for service.

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Hi! The bobbin tension rarely needs to be adjusted. First, make sure you're using the appropriate size needle and thread for your fabric (I'd probably use either a 'denim' needle or a universal size 14) and also that the upper thread and bobbin are threaded absolutely correctly. These can throw off the tension! Also, take the time to clean out the bobbin area. That can throw your stitch off also.

If the stitch on the bottom is loose, so that you see the top threads, then the top tension is too loose. If the top stitch is too loose and you see the bobbin threads on top, then the top tension is too tight.

It helps to thread the machine with different color thread on top and in the bobbin, and then stitch an inch or so on the same type of fabric as you're using in your quilt. Check the stitch. If you need to adjust the top tension, make sure the pressure foot is down! Adjust a little, stitch a few inches, and check again. Repeat until you don't see any (or very little) bobbin thread on the top or top thread on the bottom.

If you go through all these steps, and the bobbin thread is still loose (and you've tightened up the top tension), then there is a tiny little screw on the side of the bobbin case that you can use to adjust the bobbin tension. Turn the screw just a little bit (less than a quarter turn), stitch, check, etc. Once the bobbin tension is set, you shouldn't ever have to change it.

Let me know if this helps, ok?

Happy sewing!




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