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After running the lower oven "self-clean" function, the lower oven does not get hot. Upper oven still works fine.

Removed the lower oven temperature sensor and tested it for continuity/ohms resistance. Originally I thought this was the problem - ordered and just replaced the temp sensor. Installed the new temperature sensor - lower oven still does not work. Re-checked the original temperature sensor - and it measures 1070 ohms - I originally read it as "open" - my mistake on the original diagnosis of the problem. What can I check/test to better diagnose the problem? Thank you, Jim Craig - Healy, Alaska

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Try the heating element, it could be open. Also check to see if it is getting voltage.

Posted on Nov 26, 2014

Testimonial: "Will check the heating element ASAP - what would be a normal ohm measurement for the heating element? Thank you for the followup to my question - big help. Jim"

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    Jim Craig Nov 29, 2014

    Removed and tested lower oven heating element: 17 ohms of resistance. Is this the correct amount of expected resistance in a heating element? Thanks, Jim

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You are on right track, as you have already checked the sensor which has around 1100ohms so the problem is with the electronic control board that is bad and needs replacement. Please get back to me if you have any other questions.

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The ohm's on the temp sensor is adequate if measured at normal room temperature. Next check the wiring from the sensor connector to the control board for continuity. Also verify there isn't any corrosion on the connection to the board. If that is good, visually inspect the control board for burnt areas as that will be the only other component in that function. This control board is NLA but you may find one stashed in someone's old inventory.

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