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My upper looper does not engage. The "poof" threader doesn't seem to send the thread far enough into the machine.

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  • Sewingirl Nov 16, 2014

    Hi Carol, good to see your message.

  • Sewingirl Nov 16, 2014

    Hello Carol, good to see your comment. Make sure that the threading tube for the upper looper is closing when in 'threading' set up. It may be that there is lint in the tube. What kind of thread are you trying to thread, woolly or a thick thread? Either way, insert the metal wire threader into the upper looper port and push it through until it emerges at eh other end, at the upper looper eye. It will probably have a bit of lint which has been causing the blockage. Another cause for impartial threading of the upper looper is that the uper looper converter in engaged and therefore blocking the upper looper eye. Happy stitching and let me know how you go.

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Hello Carol, what is the machine make and model ... sounds like it may be a Baby Lock?
'looking forward to hear from you.

Posted on Nov 16, 2014

Testimonial: "Babylock Imagine. The air poof threader only sends the thread part way through. the lower looper threads fine."

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