Joecoolvette,
so far I think I am able to isolate the power outage area. By using a Voltage Tester I found in my attic a wiring entrance (hole) where four wires are present: two energized wires come from...
My extreme apologizes yacunix, as I just received notification!
I do realize the gravity of your problem due to,
A) Your indication of shutting all power off to your residential structure
B) The grave safety factors that are involved, and it is my contention that you should be led step, by step, with safety guidelines being implemented during the entire course of the procedures involved.
All safety issues Need to be addressed, Before starting the procedures, and During the procedures.
In my possible defense, and this website's defense, I would wish you to know why my response is so late.
I didn't provide a Solution. I provided information in a Clarification. This was implemented, because I hadn't provided any sort of solution to your problem, just possible information to tools you may want to consider, and a way to start diagnosing your problem.
I was alerted that you had posted again, and had my user name in the heading, by a fellow expert, jyackle5.
More information was needed before proceeding further.
I needed to know if your residential structure was of the vintage that used the old knob, and tube wiring system.
With this older type of system, the Neutral, or Common wire, is led all throughout the residence on a single strand of wire.
There are individual Hot wires for each room, or a series of receptacles.
Now that I see we are dealing with a Service Panel, that has circuit breakers. Hopefully all the wiring is NM.
(Non Metallic insulation. A moniker frequently used is 'Romex'. Romex is/was a manufacturer of NM wiring, and the name stuck.
Just like when an open end adjustable wrench, is referred to as a 'Crescent Wrench')
[ I know it's a pain accessing the attic, and going back to those proposed power source wires. All I can state, is welcome to the world of an electrician.
Are the two energized wires, and the two non-energized wires in a junction box?
The junction box will be made of metal, or plastic. (Metal preferred)
If they are not, they need to be put into one. Anytime you have a connection you have a possible source for resistance, and also the connection coming loose.
Resistance causes heat. Heat can cause Fire.
Connections are put inside a junction box to keep them contained in a safe manner, and for physical requirements.
I use a metal style of junction box. I use 'Romex' wire connectors attached to the junction box, and clamped down on the wires.
I also use the metal cover.
This is a safety requirement set out by the NEC a long time ago. (US)
If a fire breaks out do to a loose connection, it is contained inside that junction box.
If a connection becomes so loose that the hot wire touches the junction box, the circuit breaker for that circuit, trips.
(ALL junction boxes, must be connected to the bare copper wire. Earth ground)
Stated this information in case you have a situation where NM wires are sticking up in that attic access hole, with wire nuts for the connection, and are NOT in a junction box.
It would behoove you to put them in a junction box, believe me.
A metal junction box used for this purpose is octagonal shaped.
There are four knockout holes, on the outside edge of the junction box. There is a metal cover that screws down on top of the junction box
An instrument such as a metal flat tip screwdriver, is used to partially tap the knockout to the outside of the junction box, then a pair of electrician's pliers are used to twist the knockout back, and forth, then remove it.
There are two different styles of these metal octagonal junction boxes, and two different sizes that I use.
(IF space permits, you can also use a square metal junction box)
One style has Two - 3/4 inch knockout holes, and Two - 1 inch knockout holes. Small and large in size.
The other style has Four - 3/4 inch knockout holes. Small and large in size.
Since you are only dealing with 4 wires, I would suggest the style that has Four - 3/4 inch knockout holes, and is 4 inches in diameter, plus 1-1/2 inches deep.
Buy Four Romex wire connectors.
( Illustration of what a Romex connector looks like,
http://www.gordonelectricsupply.com/index~ID~,Conduit...Fittings,NM.Romex.Connectors~path~product~part~35870~ds~dept~process~search
Note the two screws, and the bar clamp, in the front of this Romex connector's view shown.
The NM wire goes under the clamp, and the two screws tighten the clamp to the INSULATION of the NM wire.
The screws are tightened down evenly, keeping the clamp flat on the wire's insulation.
The clamp is only tightened down tight enough to keep the NM wire from pulling out, Not so tight that it squishes the insulation too far.
NO more than 1 inch of the OUTER insulation sheath, of the NM wire, can be protruding inside the junction box.
Make SURE you have enough NM wire's outer insulation stripped back, when installing the NM wire into the junction box.
TIP: Strip back 3 inches of the outer insulation sheath, of the NM wire.
The locking ring nut comes off, and the Romex wire connector's threaded part is inserted through the knockout hole, from the outside of the junction box.
Then the nut is installed on the threads, from the inside of the junction box.
Use a flat tip screwdriver to tighten the locking ring nut, by putting the flat tip against the 'Teeth' of the locking ring, and tapping the handle of the screwdriver.
You want the clamp to be parallel to the cover, for easy access to the screw heads.
I turn the Romex wire connector to about a 45 degree angle, tighten the locking ring just so tight, then use my electricians pliers to turn the Romex connector, until the clamp is parallel to the junction box cover, and the locking ring tightens up all the way.
NO more than 3 conductor wires can be installed in a single octagonal junction box. The Hot wires, (Black), are the conductor wires.
(That means there will be 3 Black wires, 3 White {Neutral or Common} wires, and 3 bare copper wires. {Ground)
Apologizes for that, but IF those four wires are NOT in a junction box, I don't want you to fix the source of your problem, and leave these wires not in a junction box.
Not in a junction box is an excellent source for a possible fire hazard. ALL connections should be in a junction box in some form, or another. Even behind a light fixture. ('Pancake' box)
NOW,
You have identified the two source hot wires, (Or it is thought so at this point)
Did you physically check the wire nuts to see if they were loose?
Did you do this with the POWER being ON?
THIS = NO!
POWER OFF, and I mean the entire residence, if you are not 100% positive what circuit breaker/s provide power, to those two hot leads!
Even IF you are sure the power is off, use the non-contact voltage detector for those wires, and BE SURE!
I hope you take no offense, to my being overbearing about your safety. I am not trying to insult your intelligence at any time.
I am just VERY Concerned for your safety.
AC electricity used in your residence is Alternating Current.
The electricity actually alternates back, and forth.
As it does it Vibrates the wire.
This vibration can loosen connections such as a wire nut. Upon a casual glance, the wire nut may indeed look to be tight.
Upon closer inspection by trying to twist the wire nut on tighter, it may be found that the wire nut is loose.
The wire nut MUST be on tight!!
No ANDS, IF's, or BUTS about it!
I have come through MANY a residence, where the wire nuts worked loose.
I have been through a few, where the two wires were not properly twisted together, before the wire nut was twisted on.
Tip of one wire was barely caught by the threads of the wire nut, and eventually came loose out of the wire nut.
(Yes, it makes it so much FUN {?} to track these down!)
Another thing. I tape the wire nuts to the wires, with Black electrical tape. Prevents those babies from ever coming loose. The last wind of the tape is wrapped around the wires, then tied into a square knot.
(Yes, another electrician would hate to follow my work, and have to take that electrical tape off, before being able to remove the wire nut. Thing is, unless they are using this connection for another wire lead to something else, they don't have to touch my connections. My connections stay secure. I have residences from 12 years ago, or more, to prove this)
More in additional comments, leading more directly to your problem, with your recent information posted.
What colour are the wires and what country do you live in?
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