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Anonymous Posted on Sep 14, 2014

What is the difference in trajectory between Winchester 308 150 gr PP and the 150 gr PSP ? My rifle is sighted in for the 150 PP and I now have ammo for the 150 PSP. What will the change be in point o

My rifle is a Winchester Model 100, purchased in 1962 and upgraded per company specs.

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This question is a bit silly since eventually you will need to resight your weapon for the new ammo anyway. So spend the time and the ammo costs to go to the range and do it right, right from the get go.

this way you won't need to recalculate drop rate and use kentucky windage for every shot at differing ranges.

Recommend from USMC sniper/rifle expert.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 08, 2009

SOURCE: lost manual for trophy scope 3-9x40 rifle

There is no manual for elevation and windage adjustments. (at least not one that comes with your scope; all your scopes manual will say is whether its FFP or SFP (First Focal Plane or Second Focal Plane, the scale used on your scope for mil dots)(you can get this info by finding a store that sells this scope and asking a sales rep)

To adjust for elevation and windage you have to take into account the daily factors (unless your shooting in the same indoor environmental controlled shooting range each day you SNOB! jk

The formula takes alot of variables into account and is known as Exterior Ballistics

!) Environmental Factors - First thing you account for.

A) Elevation from sea level plays a large part into your environmental adjustments. Your elevation from sea level determines largely the Barometirc Pressure but it also varies slightly with Temp and Humidity (Major Factor)

B) Temperature - The temperature can affect the density of the air. The hotter it is the thinner it is and therefore less resistance and a higher bullet trajectory (Minor Factor)

C) Humidity - This again will affect the densify of the air infront of your bullet (Minor Factor)

D) Barometric Pressure - The other large factor in air density this is the base stat that the others modify

These all combined create a ratio that you apply to standard MOA (windage and elevation adjustments) to obtain the shooting information for that particular environment)



2) Bullet Factors (Listed on the Box you buy) - There are a few bullet factors to take into account.

A) Speed - the bullets feet per second can vary as much or more than 500 feet per second with the
same caliber ammunition.
B) Grain - The Grain of an ammunition is a measure fo its "Sectional Density" or weight to volume
ratio
C) Ballistic Co Efficient - This number is the measure of the bullets ability to maintain its speed
during flight. This also varies from Grain to Grain


These factors are complex and a pain for the best of shooters to determine. adding to that confusion. there are many ways to determine a bullets ballistics coefficient and each one gets a different number. In this case bullet data is best retieved from the manufactuerers box and take their word for it.

3) Lastly you account for shot factors.

A) Range - by referencing your standard elevation MOA adjustments and mutliplying by the ratio for environment the Elevation MOA is achieved.


B) Windage - Windage is done in inches per mile per hour then is multiplied by the Mph of the wind.
In order to be precise the windage is done in inches instead of MOA. it needs to be converted heres and example.

You Ballistics Cheat Sheet for the day says the windage at 900 yards is 5.2 Inches per mph of wind.
you apply the ratio for your environment .90 (all example numbers. this number would represent a shooting environment with an air density lower than standard/ the cheat sheet's known MOA adjustments). the 5.2 inches is multiplied by .9to acheive 4.68?? idk the point is you mulitply that by the wind of 10 mph to achieve a total of 46.8" of wind drift to the target.

now for the conversion to MOA. 1 MOA is eqaul to 1.047" per 100 yards. meaning for every 1 moa you adjust the bullet will move 1.047" per 100 yards (our target is 900 yards; meaning that each MOA for this target is 9*1.047" = 9.423" per MOA adjustment. so take that number and divide our total wind drift by it. ie 46.8 / 9.423 = MOA Windage Change of 4.9665... now you need to know whethere your scope is 1/4 minute clicks or 1/8 minutes (how many spaces between large numbers?) you would adjust to 5 MOA for a 1/4 minutes scope equaling 20 clicks on an 1/8th minute scope it would be 40 clicks.

This is the math of shooting. to learn how go to
WWW.shooterready.com they are an excellent sight to get the math down WITHOUT wasting ammo. Once you have the math you an transfer it to your gun. waste a few rounds checking it out and youll be hitting targets @ 1800 yards in no time

I like to take the simple way after i learned how to do the hard way

There is software tha will do the exterior calcualtions for you.

if your interested i use Sierra Infinity V6 Ballistics Software

GL


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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 17, 2009

SOURCE: I have a model D-4 weaver rifle scope with missing adjustment par

Pretty much all rifle scopes have great warranties. Send it into weaver and i'm sure they will fix it plus replace any parts. I'm sure they will charge for missing parts but it would be best for them to look at it and check it out. TP

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 29, 2009

SOURCE: Having Trouble Dialing in New Air Rifle Scope

I had the same problem.. shimmed the rear ring by folding some aluminum foil and lining the whole bottom part of the ring. I think after all was said and done, the aluminum was about 12 slices thick. This gave me a little bit of elevation to play with.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 24, 2009

SOURCE: i am trying to bore sight a rifle with a center

When bore sighting you need to adjust in small steps and "TAP" the bore or the main body of your scope to cause a golt, as when shooting your gun it will kick and cause the scope cross hairs to take their set.  Tap it with a med sized screw driver handle. Make a small adjustment and tap it, adjust and tap. 

Leonard Zook

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  • Posted on May 31, 2010

SOURCE: point of impact shifting 3-4 inch groups at 100

Basic things to check:

Scope base screws - make sure they are tight. 30 in/lbs or so.
Scope rings - make sure they are tight and grip the scope securely. 15 - 20 in/lbs for steel rings.
Scope attachment screws - tighten securely.

Change in ammunition?
Change in rifle rest technique? you should be resting the stock on your rest, not the barrel.

started using a sling? this can change POI.

Is your bore clean? Use a copper remover after your normal cleaning process.

Check the barrel crown for damage.
Check the action mounting screws for proper torque.

Hope some of this helps!



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When adjusting for a couple of inches, the next shot is a foot off. It seems to wander all over the target.

! click is 1 inch @ 100 yards, provided you have the correct scope for the rifle.
If you are sighting in a .22 LR 40 grain match velocity bullet for 100 yards, the mid range trajectory (50 Yards) is 6" higher. The bullet has a 6" arc half way to your target. If you are sighting in a .270 with 150 grain blunt tail bullets for 250 yards, the mid range trajectory is .4 higher. It only has 4/10" arc half way.
You most match the scope to the gun, and the 1 click= 1 inch rule will apply. Otherwise, it's lock it into a righd mount, fire it and adjust the scope accordingly. If you want to change the range on the scope, it will be guesswork.
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