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I can't get the gear shift to stay in place, it pops out

When the clutch is released the gear shift pops out of both forward and reverse and I cannot even move the tractor while it is in neutral

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Sounds like your clutch is bad... usually refered to as slipping clutch, meaning that when you put the stick in gear and take your foot off the clutch it slips outta gear

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VERY Bizarre Combination of "Symptoms" I Believe Relating to Clutch or Transmission, or heaven forbid worse! Please help!


Hi,

First, congrats on the most detailed problem description I have ever seen! Seriously, it does assist us.

All this is completely consistent with your clutch not releasing properly, meaning that the gearbox is still turning when the pedal is depressed. The syncros in the gearbox will then keep you out of gear, that is what they should do. You can indeed shift into higher gears however when driving as the gearbox revs more nearly match to what is needed. The jerking forward when you hit the starter is due to the poor old starter motor having to move the whole car instead of just the engine, because the clutch has not released !

Now as to why, it is likely that the clutch release fork has broken, inside the housing. I had this once with a Mazda, and symptoms were exactly as you describe. The gearbox has to be removed if this is the problem, and you should also then take the chance to renew the clutch, pressure and driven plate both, unless quite new.

Also a possible cause is a complete loss of clutch fluid if a hydraulic clutch, or a broken cable if that type of clutch. Loss of fluid in a hydraulic clutch can be easily checked in the fluid reservoir, and can occur if a hose splits
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Jun 19, 2016 | 1995 Mazda Protege

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Having trouble shifting gears what could the problem be? Also can you adjust the clutch?


Generally, when a transmission starts popping out of gear under load, it means there is a bad bearing in the trans. The shafts are no longer parallel and that makes the gears push each other out of place. If you're having trouble shifting, it's probably either a bad clutch or (by the evidence presented) you've worn out the synchro rings. Either way, it means pulling out the transmission. The clutch is hydraulic, so it adjusts automatically. If it isn't working, then parts have to be replaced or fluid added.

Mar 22, 2015 | 2002 Dodge Stratus

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Why would a vehicle in reverse move forward


The question is a little vague but I think I know what your referring to. All modern automatic transmissions have torque converters. This is the device that connects the engine to the transmission. All vehicle manufacturers like the trans to be nice and smooth shifting. That's great but it does come with some minor drawbacks. If you are facing slightly down hill and you put your car in reverse but do not step on the gas slightly I can guarantee that you will indeed roll forward. You can eliminate that issue by holding your left foot on the brake while you shift into reverse. Then, as soon as you feel the trans engage, gently depress the gas pedal with your right foot and it will eliminate that forward roll problem.

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Shifter moves on big bear 350 but quad wont reverse now it goes forwards


for some reason you are not getting into reverse , there is no real reason it should stay in forward gears unless there is someting wrong with the shifter itself being in the wrong position this can happen take it off and reposition it and make sure your clutch is disengauging to shift gears , will it go into all gears or just 1 forward , ck into that and be a little more specific on the problem ,good luck

Mar 18, 2014 | Grizzly Big Bear Atv Maintenance Free...

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Stick shift


Hi:
The shift pattern is pretty much the same on all 5 speed cars. The top row is the odd numbers, 1-3-5
the bottom row is 2-4-Reverse. The center position is neutral

Here is the key: The shifter is slightly spring-loaded to the center position. If you hold in the clutch pedal and pull the shifter to neutral, and let go of it, it will automatically be lined up in the position, that if you pushed it forward , it would go to 3rd gear, and if you pulled it back, it would go into 4th gear.
This way, to start driving, you start out in neutral, grab the shifter lightly, and push it first to the left, then forward. This is first gear, where you start out. when you want to shift to second, push in the clutch, and keeping left pressure on the shifter, pull all the way back . Here is the easy part, 2nd to 3rd. When you are ready, push in the clutch, and just push the gear shift forward , till it hits neutral, and is spring loaded to the middle. Then you just push it straight forward to 3rd, then next shift, straight back to 4th.
Last gear, 5th: push forward to the neutral row, then Push to the right till it lines up ,and forward to the 5th gear. Reverse should only be shifted into from a dead stop. Find neutral, push the shifter all the way right, then pull back towards you. Hope this helps.
Practice a bunch in the driveway!

Apr 21, 2010 | 2001 Hyundai Elantra

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I have a 2000 Expedition 4.6L Triton. I've had truck about 7 years and love it. I have had all the transmission issues this truck can have...(I thought) until now this: SYMPTOM Transmission drives well in...


4R100 or 4R70W?

Geartrain
Power is transmitted from the torque converter to the geartrain components through the input shaft and forward clutch cylinder.
  • By holding or driving certain members of the gearset, four forward ratios and one reverse ratio are obtained and transmitted to the output shaft. The ratios are as follows:


GEAR RATIO 1ST 2.71 to 1 2ND 1.54 to 1 3RD 1.00 to 1 4TH 0.71 to 1 REVERSE 2.18 to 1
Input Shaft
The input shaft is supported by two bushings in the stator support. End positioning of the input shaft is controlled by the splines in the converter turbine and the overdrive planet assembly.
Output Shaft
The output shaft is supported by two bushings in the case and by the slip-yoke and bushing in the extension housing. End positioning is controlled by the parking pawl gear and snap ring or shoulder and by the reverse ring gear hub and snap ring.
Overdrive System
The overdrive planetary system consists of the overdrive planet assembly, overdrive sun gear, overdrive ring gear, coast clutch cylinder, overdrive one-way clutch assembly and the center shaft, as shown in the following illustration. The overdrive planet assembly is splined to the input shaft. The overdrive sun gear is centered by a bushing on the input shaft and held in place laterally by needle bearings on the reactor support and the overdrive planet assembly. The overdrive sun gear is splined to the coast clutch cylinder, which in turn is splined to the overdrive one-way clutch inner race.
The outer race of the one-way clutch is splined to the overdrive ring gear, which is splined to the center shaft. The center shaft is centered by the forward planetary assembly and is laterally held by needle bearings on the center support and the overdrive planet assembly. The center shaft is splined into the forward clutch cylinder.
Two friction clutches are assembled in the overdrive planet assembly. The coast clutch is splined between the coast clutch cylinder and the overdrive ring gear. The coast clutch is activated to perform engine braking in MANUAL 1, MANUAL 2 and third gear with the transmission control switch engaged.
The overdrive clutch is splined between the case and the coast clutch cylinder. The overdrive clutch holds the coast clutch cylinder and, in turn, the overdrive sun gear, to permit the planet assembly to overdrive the ring gear.
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Forward Drive System
The forward drive system consists of the forward clutch cylinder, intermediate brake drum, intermediate one-way clutch, input shell, forward ring gear, forward ring gear hub, forward/reverse sun gear and the forward planetary carrier and forward planetary gears.
The forward clutch cylinder is splined on the center shaft. The forward ring gear is piloted on the forward ring gear hub. Thrust bearings on the forward planet assembly and forward clutch cylinder hold the forward ring gear hub in place.
The intermediate brake drum is radially supported by bushings on the center support and is laterally controlled by thrust washers on the forward clutch cylinder and center support. The intermediate brake drum has the inner race of the intermediate one-way clutch press-fitted on its pilot. The intermediate one-way clutch's outer race is splined to the intermediate friction clutch, which is splined to the case. The intermediate brake drum has lugs that are slotted into the input shell to form a mechanical connection. The input shell is splined into the forward/reverse sun gear. The forward/reverse sun gear is common to two planetary gearsets. The forward planet is splined to the output shaft and is laterally positioned by needle bearings on the sun gear and on the forward clutch cylinder, as shown in the following illustration.
Two friction clutch assemblies, the direct clutch and the forward clutch, are shown with the forward planetary assembly. The direct clutch assembly splines the forward clutch cylinder to the intermediate brake drum. The forward clutch assembly splines the forward clutch cylinder to the forward ring gear. The forward clutch is activated during all forward gears. While in third or fourth gear, both the direct and forward clutches are applied to hold the forward planetary assembly and enable it to act as a solid shaft.
In second gear, the intermediate clutch assembly holds the forward/reverse sun gears. It is applied, along with the intermediate one-way clutch, to hold the intermediate brake drum, input shell and forward/reverse sun gear. In higher gears, the one-way clutch overruns.
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Low and Reverse Drive System
The reverse planetary assembly consists of the reverse planetary carrier, reverse planet gears, the reverse ring gear, the reverse ring gear hub, the reverse clutch hub and the low-reverse one-way clutch assembly.
The reverse ring gear hub is splined to the output shaft and to the reverse ring gear. The reverse ring gear hub is laterally held by a needle bearing on the inner race of the low-reverse one-way clutch and a snap ring on the output shaft. The reverse planet assembly is splined to the low-reverse clutch hub. The low-reverse clutch hub is connected by the reverse clutch to the case. The inner race of the one-way clutch is bolted to the case.
The reverse clutch assembly is activated in REVERSE gear and in MANUAL 1. The reverse clutch bypasses the reverse one-way clutch during coast and MANUAL 1. The reverse clutch holds the reverse planet assembly in REVERSE gear to enable the sun gear to drive the reverse ring gear in the opposite direction.
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Apply Components
The following information describes the operation of the three 4R100 one-way clutches.
One-Way Clutch—Overdrive
The overdrive one-way clutch, shown in the following illustration, transmits engine torque from the overdrive sun gear to the overdrive ring gear in first, second and third gear range. The overdrive one-way clutch transmits power when the sprags are engaged between the inner and outer races. The inner race is splined to the coast clutch cylinder, which in turn is splined to the overdrive sun gear. The outer race is splined to the overdrive ring gear.
The overdrive one-way clutch engages whenever the overdrive planetary system attempts to drive the overdrive sun gear clockwise when the overdrive ring gear has a counterclockwise torque from the vehicle. When torqued counterclockwise, the overdrive one-way clutch engages and acts as a wedge to lock the sun gear and the ring gear together. During coast, the overdrive one-way clutch enables the ring gear to overrun or spin at a faster rate than the sun gear.
The overdrive one-way clutch overruns when in overdrive (fourth gear). In overdrive, the coast clutch cylinder is held by the overdrive one-way clutch, which in turn holds the overdrive sun gear. This causes the overdrive planet assembly to walk around the sun gear and overdrive the overdrive ring gear. The inner race of the overdrive one-way clutch is thus held stationary while the outer race is allowed to overrun clockwise.
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50hp force that jumps in an out of gear


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My 2001 lincoln ls wont go into 4th or 5th gears. Took it to a trans shop and they recommended a rebuild for 3000+ dollars. But Ive been reading that alot of lincolns with the same problem getting err


call your dealer to get an estimate too.

Shift Patterns Upshifts
Transmission upshifting is controlled by the powertrain control module. The PCM receives inputs from various engine or vehicle sensors and driver demands to control shift scheduling, shift feel and torque converter clutch (TCC) operation.
The PCM has an adaptive learn strategy to electronically control the transmission which will automatically adjust the shift feel. When the battery has been disconnected, or a new battery installed certain transmission operating parameters may be lost. The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) must re-learn these parameters. During this learning process you may experience slightly firm shifts, delayed, or early shifts. This operation is considered normal and will not affect the function of the transmission. Normal operation will return once these parameters are stored by the PCM.
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Apply Components Band — Overdrive
For component location, refer to Disassembled Views in this section.
During 2nd and 5th gear operation, hydraulic pressure is applied to the overdrive servo.
  • This pressure causes the piston to move and apply force to the band.
  • This action causes the overdrive band to hold the overdrive drum.
  • This causes the overdrive sun gear to be held stationary through the adapter plate and the overdrive drum.
Band — Low/Reverse
For component location, refer to Disassembled Views in this section.
During 2nd gear operation, 1st gear operation and reverse, hydraulic pressure is applied to the low/reverse servo.
  • This pressure causes the servo to move and apply force to the low/reverse band.
  • This action causes the low/reverse brake drum to be held.
  • This action causes the low/reverse planetary assembly to be held stationary.
Band — Intermediate
For component location, refer to Disassembled Views in this section.
During 3rd gear operation, hydraulic pressure is applied to the intermediate servo.
  • This pressure causes the servo to move and apply force to the intermediate band.
  • This action causes the direct clutch drum to be held.
  • The intermediate band holds the intermediate brake and direct clutch drum to the case in 3rd gear.
  • This causes the input shell and forward sun gear to be held stationary.
Clutches — Direct
For component location, refer to Disassembled Views in this section.
The direct clutch is a multi-disc clutch made up of steel and friction plates.
  • The direct clutch is applied with hydraulic pressure and disengaged by return springs and the exhaust of the hydraulic pressure.
  • It is housed in the direct clutch drum.
  • During 4th, 5th, and reverse gear application, the direct clutch is applied transferring torque from the forward clutch cylinder to the direct clutch drum.
  • This action causes the forward sun gear to drive the pinions of the low/reverse planetary carrier.
Clutches — Forward
For component location, refer to Disassembled Views in this section.
The forward clutch is a multi-disc clutch made up of steel and friction plates.
  • The forward clutch is applied with hydraulic pressure and disengaged by return springs and the exhaust of the hydraulic pressure.
  • The forward clutch is applied in all forward gears.
  • When applied, the forward clutch provides a direct mechanical coupling between the center shaft and the forward ring gear and hub.
Clutches — Coast
For component location, refer to Disassembled Views in this section.
The coast clutch is a multi-disc clutch made up of steel and friction plates.
  • The coast clutch is applied with hydraulic pressure and disengaged by return springs and the exhaust of the hydraulic pressure.
  • The coast clutch is housed in the overdrive drum.
  • The coast clutch is applied when in 1st, 3rd, D4, and reverse positions.
  • When applied, the coast clutch locks the overdrive sun gear to the overdrive planetary carrier, thus preventing the one-way clutch from overrunning when the vehicle is coasting.
    • This allows the use of engine compression to help slow the vehicle and provide engine braking.
Clutches — Intermediate
For component location, refer to Disassembled Views in this section.
The intermediate clutch is a multi-disc stationary clutch made up of steel and friction plates which are in a module assembly that includes the cylinder and frictions.
  • Applied with hydraulic pressure.
  • Disengaged by a return spring and releasing of hydraulic pressure.
  • Hydraulic pressure is feed through a feed tube in the case worm trail.
  • Uses a bonded piston in an aluminum housing.
  • Applied in during a 2-3 shift event.
  • Transfers torque from the sun gear to the planetary carrier.
  • Torque transfer causes the one way clutch to engage and holds the sun gear from turning, delivering 3rd gear.
One-Way Clutch — Direct
For component location, refer to Disassembled Views in this section.
The direct one-way clutch is a sprag-type one-way clutch that is pressed into the center shaft.
  • The direct one-way clutch is driven by the ring gear of the overdrive planetary carrier.
  • The direct one-way clutch holds and drives the outer splines of the center shaft in 1st, 3rd, 4th and reverse gears.
  • The direct one-way clutch overruns during all coast operations and at all times in 2nd and 5th gear.
One-Way Clutch — Intermediate
For component location, refer to Disassembled Views in this section.
The Intermediate One-Way Clutch is a sprag type one-way clutch.
  • The Intermediate One-Way Clutch connects the intermediate assembly to the input shell and sun gear assembly in third gear.
One-Way Clutch — Low/Reverse
For component location, refer to Disassembled Views in this section.
The low/reverse one-way clutch is a sprag type one-way clutch.
  • The low/reverse one-way clutch holds the low/reverse drum and low/reverse planetary assembly to the case in 1st and 2nd gear.
  • In all other gears the low/reverse one-way clutch overruns.
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May 01, 2009 | 2002 Lincoln LS

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My 92 honda accord will not go into 1st 3rd or 5th gear


check shift fork adjustment. make sure you bleed the slave cylinder.also check shift cable adjustment.

Apr 11, 2009 | 1992 Honda Accord

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